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abe smith · 08-23-2002, 06:51 AM

1.Post hoc ergo propter hoc is substantiated by If you want God to rain on your thirsty lawn, wash yer car. and We painted the picketfence green and all the kids came down w/ the measles.
2.If "IT" happens at-all, then ITS happening falls within the universal laws (even tho, of course! we don't know yet what all of those are.)

NE exception *invalidates* the Rule. Hence there are no "miracles". So, take o take those junk away.....
3.And let me beat my recurrent drum for D. Hume's essay On MIracles.
4. And of course! religionists will believe ANYTHING that can be alleged to support their damned dogmatic fictions.

Mr.Sunshine · 08-23-2002, 10:13 PM

A super natural event is but an unexplained natural event.In Biblical times and beyond,Schizophrenia was thought of as Demon possesion and unsuccessfully treated by excorcisim.Today its understood as a chemical inbalance of the brain and successfully treated with psycotropic drugs..........We've come a long way baby.......But we still got a long way to go.

NOGO · 08-24-2002, 05:33 PM

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Now, as I am becoming more secularized, my outlooks and perceptions are gradually shifting. For the reasons above, I would rather not label any event a miracle. Instead, I would guess that the most appropriate course of action would to say that there is not an explanation available within our current context of knowledge. I might be wrong, but prima facie, this outlook seems more legitimate. Once again, criticisms are greatly appreciated.

You assume above that the event took place as described.

My take ...
A miracle is the belief that a ficticious and fabricated story of a supernatural event really took place.

Believers ...
A miracle is evidence of the direct intervention of God in human affairs.

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08-23-2002, 06:51 AM	#11
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	1.Post hoc ergo propter hoc is substantiated by If you want God to rain on your thirsty lawn, wash yer car. and We painted the picketfence green and all the kids came down w/ the measles. 2.If "IT" happens at-all, then ITS happening falls within the universal laws (even tho, of course! we don't know yet what all of those are.) NE exception invalidates the Rule. Hence there are no "miracles". So, take o take those junk away..... 3.And let me beat my recurrent drum for D. Hume's essay On MIracles. 4. And of course! religionists will believe ANYTHING that can be alleged to support their damned dogmatic fictions.

08-23-2002, 10:13 PM	#12
Mr.Sunshine Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moultrie,Ga. Posts: 8	A super natural event is but an unexplained natural event.In Biblical times and beyond,Schizophrenia was thought of as Demon possesion and unsuccessfully treated by excorcisim.Today its understood as a chemical inbalance of the brain and successfully treated with psycotropic drugs..........We've come a long way baby.......But we still got a long way to go.

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