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Soul Invictus · 08-09-2003, 04:05 PM

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You would know my secrets?

The Cross book is a must--a bit hard at points because he gets into the linguistics.

Friedman's Who Wrote the Old Testament is also mandatory. This provides some good links to references. In fact, stop what you are doing and start reading it . . . NOW!

Another hard book to find, but a good one, is:

Edelman DV, ed. The Triumph of Elohim: from Yahwisms to Judaisms. Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eardmans Publishing Co., 1995.

--J.D.

It's on its way.....Ordered it from the library. Is it a reader or a keeper(buyer)?

Doctor X · 08-09-2003, 04:18 PM

Whoa . . . which one?

I am a book fiend--all of life's problems can be solved by a book. Library? HA! That is for peasants who do not have their OWN library!

Anyways, Who Wrote the Bible? is a definite keeper.

Cross, I think is a keeper--I return to it often in these type of discussions, but you may want to read through it. I rather enjoy the Edelman book--a collection of essays--which I would think a keeper. Unfortunately, it is not as "popular" as I think it should be.

To give an example--the Edelman book discusses the picture of YHWH--Tel Kirbut or something like that--which has an inscripton over it refering to "YHWH and his Asherath."

Neat!

However, the two figures really do not look anything like two gods--both have . . . er . . . equipment . . . which kind of argues against a "female"--some try to call it a tale hanging between the legs. . . .

Well a book I bought which was PAINFUL is on iconography--it give a detailed section on this and argues the inscription does not refer to the figures--they are Bes figures which would take a bit to explain.

[ZZZZzzZZZZZzzzZZZ. . . .--Ed.]

Well, it was nice to compare the discussions between the books.

However, the Edelman book discusses coins with YHWH's depiction which the other book does NOT discuss.

So . . . I was happy to have them both.

Anyways, for ease of reading I would go Friedman-Edelman-Cross.

--J.D.

Doctor X · 08-09-2003, 04:23 PM

Oh yeah . . . just to add . . .

two REALLY good books on archeaology are listed in the Recommended Section.

One is a short, complete, fascinating work Biblical Archeaology. THAT is one worth getting. Why do we think the Exodus never happened--nice, short, complete.

The other is more "popular"--Bible Unearthed. I still recommend it--it, for example, "supposes" a David existed, but they do admit it is a supposition rather than an accepted fact. The first book give "the other side" to the argument.

One book not on the list--last I checked--I would strongly recommend:

The Mythic Past, Thomas Thompson.

This is a very readable discussion on the mythmaking of history in the OT.

So many books . . . so little time. . . .

--J.D.

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08-09-2003, 04:18 PM	#102
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Whoa . . . which one? I am a book fiend--all of life's problems can be solved by a book. Library? HA! That is for peasants who do not have their OWN library! Anyways, Who Wrote the Bible? is a definite keeper. Cross, I think is a keeper--I return to it often in these type of discussions, but you may want to read through it. I rather enjoy the Edelman book--a collection of essays--which I would think a keeper. Unfortunately, it is not as "popular" as I think it should be. To give an example--the Edelman book discusses the picture of YHWH--Tel Kirbut or something like that--which has an inscripton over it refering to "YHWH and his Asherath." Neat! However, the two figures really do not look anything like two gods--both have . . . er . . . equipment . . . which kind of argues against a "female"--some try to call it a tale hanging between the legs. . . . Well a book I bought which was PAINFUL is on iconography--it give a detailed section on this and argues the inscription does not refer to the figures--they are Bes figures which would take a bit to explain. [ZZZZzzZZZZZzzzZZZ. . . .--Ed.] Well, it was nice to compare the discussions between the books. However, the Edelman book discusses coins with YHWH's depiction which the other book does NOT discuss. So . . . I was happy to have them both. Anyways, for ease of reading I would go Friedman-Edelman-Cross. --J.D.

08-09-2003, 04:23 PM	#103
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Oh yeah . . . just to add . . . two REALLY good books on archeaology are listed in the Recommended Section. One is a short, complete, fascinating work Biblical Archeaology. THAT is one worth getting. Why do we think the Exodus never happened--nice, short, complete. The other is more "popular"--Bible Unearthed. I still recommend it--it, for example, "supposes" a David existed, but they do admit it is a supposition rather than an accepted fact. The first book give "the other side" to the argument. One book not on the list--last I checked--I would strongly recommend: The Mythic Past, Thomas Thompson. This is a very readable discussion on the mythmaking of history in the OT. So many books . . . so little time. . . . --J.D.

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