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sophie · 08-07-2003, 04:24 PM

brettc :

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I assume you believe God is omnigood. Therefore, I interpreted your comment as indicating God condemning people to hell as a good thing.

Yes I did say Who has to burn has to burn. I accept this as the way of the universe. The additional implication that it is a good thing would not interest me in any way.

omniGod condemning people to hell to have their feet tickled with a little bit of heat and their truths misrepresented seems to me to be a fitting consequential end to lives filled with hate and malice. But this is only my opinion. Now I also heard that not(existence) is classical hell.

Magus55 · 08-07-2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Biff the unclean
Satan? There's no mention of Satan in this story. It only talks about Snake. And you know that Snake is only a snake, albeit a talking one, because god takes away it's legs and makes it eat the dust. I assume the dust it eats isn't the dust god sneezed on to make Adam. Too bad no one ate the fruit of the knowledge of vacuuming, that place must have been really dusty

Actually its a serpent, and Satan is called the serpent in Revelation.

Magus55 · 08-07-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Mageth
The whole mess could have been avoided if God would have given them just one more command: "See this tree? Don't eat its fruit. And NEVER talk to that goddammed serpent!"

And what makes you think they still wouldn't have talked to him? Satan is very cunning and deceptive.

Magus55 · 08-07-2003, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Hedwig
God knew this would happen. Why did god let them?

Because He wanted them to have the ability to choose for themselves. God wanted Adam and Eve to obey Him because they wanted to, not because they had no other choice.

BadBadBad · 08-07-2003, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by sophie
[B]brettc : If you are always looking only straight ahead that's called tunnel vision. I am not sure your conclusion that omniGOD cannot exist as a paradox is valid. The understanding which goes into your protracted logic is limited to illogical conclusion. That is quite an argument some days.

My "protracted logic is limited to illogical conclusion?" Logic is limited to illogic? Sure OK. Perhaps that's why you can't see the paradox in your definition of omniGod. Did you have a better argument than that? Or do you want to stand on that one?

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Mabye Eve wanted to test omniGOD. Mabye Eve wanted omniGOD as the companion instead of Adam. You think omniGOD did'nt know this, sure thing, that's probably why he chased them both out of the Garden. yeh.

Maybe? Maybe? Maybe? Probably? That's your best argument? That's your only defense to all of the arguments presented here today?

BadBadBad · 08-07-2003, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by sophie
brettc :
Yes I did say Who has to burn has to burn. I accept this as the way of the universe. The additional implication that it is a good thing would not interest me in any way.

omniGod condemning people to hell to have their feet tickled with a little bit of heat and their truths misrepresented seems to me to be a fitting consequential end to lives filled with hate and malice. But this is only my opinion. Now I also heard that not(existence) is classical hell.

So now you're admitting it. You think its a good thing. A fitting thing. So therefore I was correct in my characterization of your comment.

sophie · 08-07-2003, 04:31 PM

brettc :

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It's a direct quote. It's a famous quote. It's common knowledge. It's the Bible. You might try reading it someday.

yeh.

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Genesis 2:. 15The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till it and keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, �You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; 17but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die.�

IS this what all this argument is about? It is quite clear and pointed that their simplistic lives shall vanish or die

Why all this pointless arguments over such a simple little point. They had their choice, stay in the hammock and swing for all eternity or become too inquisitive and end up wanting to be omniGOD. yeh. (I win).

BadBadBad · 08-07-2003, 04:31 PM

Sorry to take the last word sophie, but dinner is waiting, and I gotta run. We'll have to continue tomorrow.

winstonjen · 08-07-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Because He wanted them to [I] be tortured for eternity[I]

Fixed it for you. You should be grateful.

Magus55 · 08-07-2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by winstonjen
Fixed it for you. You should be grateful.

More sarcasm, Yay!

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BadBadBad Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: WHERE GOD IS NOT!!!!! Posts: 4,338	Sorry to take the last word sophie, but dinner is waiting, and I gotta run. We'll have to continue tomorrow.

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