Arken

Laci, there is a rule on this forum against trolling. I'm not a moderator or administrator so I have no way to enforce it but I'm saying this as a fellow forumgoer... your trolls and attempts to incense people are getting tiresome. If you have relevant debate points, make them.

Laci

[quote]The Democrats have a great sense of timing. To choose today to start an anti-Bush campaign. me [/b]

Do you mean you can bash Bush but I can't bash liberals?

So I just read an article saying the Democrats were starting an anti-Bush Ad campaign. And my opinion after reading that is that they have a poor sense of timing; with Jessica Lynch coming home and the demise of the Saddams.

Okay, the point I'm making is that the Democrats will never win the next election using those tactics. And that's my personal, experienced opinion. I don't need 5 newspaper to back me up.

How else did you want me to express that?
Anyhow everything I'm saying is with a sense of humor. And so is this Avatar. :boohoo:

Arken

How about by saying what you mean rather than using it as a veiled form of attack? And how about laying off the violin playing emoticon since you use it in virtually every post you make?

King Rat

Does this have some sort of meaning to anyone? Or is this a suddern thang that I jes' wooden unnestan?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot; :boohoo:

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Oh yeah; :boohoo:

Godless Dave

Apparently, killing Saddam's sons proves you're a big tough guy and excuses you for lying about the reasons for going to war. And those big tough GIs rescued that poor girl Jessica Lynch, isn't she just the cutest little thing. And they say she tried to shoot back, isn't that just precious.

Ultron

OK. Which is more important? Explicit or implicit meaning?

But you realize that the truth of the sentence isn't in question right? The literal truth.

I totally accept the idea that there are doubts about the quality of British intelligence. But that statement never addressed the quality of British intelligence, only that British intelligence was telling us that Iraq was seeking Uranium from Africa.

I want to make it clear, there is obviously a haze over all intelligence, because so much of it indicated there were WMDs and so far nothing significant has been found. That's besides the point. The point is, was his statement true? The answer is yes. British intelligence DID say Iraq was trying to get Uranium from Africa.

No, it was said to build a case.

Remember, a prosecutor in a case is not going to take up for the defendant. Bush made the case for war, not the case against it.

The thing about context is that we have to get it right.

There's not a politician in this country that wants "Fear-mongering." Not a one. Remember as a Conservative I should be blaming Pelosi and McAllife for doing just that. Now I understand the arguement about exaggerating the threat. But that's categorically different than fear-mongering.

Of course.

Loren Pechtel

Clinton shot at Bin Laden. Bush didn't. Blame Bush for 9/11 if you're going to blame anyone.

Ultron

Clinton left the Taliban and Al Qaeda alone. Bush brought the Taliban out of power and dispersed the Al Qaeda, who had been the military wing of the Taliban.

Clinton said regime change was the best thing for Iraq, worked towards regime change, and said Iraq was a threat. Bush agreed, and said if Iraq were to become an imminent threat, it would be too late, and brought about the regime change.

Deeds, not words.

King Rat

I can't believe how obsessed with Clinton some people are.

I'll admit, everytime Bush opens his mouth I wish Clinton was back in office too. Odd how even when he got caught for getting a hummer, he was still more articulate than Bush.

I can understand trying to pin economic isues on Clinton, but our current foreign and domestic policy, or lack thereof, is entirely because of Bush. Did Clinton invent the 'Coalition of the Willing' or the 'Patriot Act' too?

One thing I do remember very well about Clinton is how well my 401k was doing while he was in office. Compare that to all the minus signs in my 401k over the past few years. I guess abstinence isn't good for the economy.

eldar1011

I'm not sure if al Qaeda could be accurately characterized as the "military wing of the Taliban". They certainly didn't act under Taliban orders. They may have been associated "muscle", but I doubt their connection was more than that.

Let's be clear here, 9/11 is what led to the fall of the Taliban and the dispersal of al Qaeda. Prior to that awful day, terrorism was NOT priority #1 with the Bush Administration.

Dealing with international terrorism was NOT a Bush campaign platform. The removal of oppressive regimes and subsequent nation building was NOT a Bush campaign platform.