Derec

I understood what you mean, it's just that it does not make any sense to me ...
Like, if you are really interested in a woman she does not want to have anything with you but if you are only lukewarm about them (or at least in your outward demeanor) they are suddenly more interested in you.

UMoC

Ion

All these statements have a common factor:

with some skills, being at ease in the local culture.
One tactic -which I don't employ myself, but that I see working when one is at ease in this U.S. culture-, Ugly, is men who gravitate around young women, are important in trivial bookkeeping and paper pushing, get to be a lot in their physical proximity and become 'understanding' confidents of them.

Extrapolating this to your student skills, it might be that you can advise and help women with class assignments.
I stopped it then, and didn't do it again.

It was a one time instance, allowing me to understand right and wrong in this kind of situation.

Since then, I divide right to not touch the commited relationship of marriage, from wrong to touch the commited relationship of marriage.

This example was to show widespread promiscuity in that culture.
I think they felt good, like if they were not professional.

My point here, is that in lovemaking, a window with new possibilities opens in the head of someone.

Someone who acted stolid and bland before lovemaking.

boingo82

The best way I can explain this is that clingy desperation is not attractive, and it can sometimes indicate somebody with a tendency towards stalking.

Confidence, however, is attractive. Just as you don't want a woman who constantly asks, "Does this dress make me look fat?" a woman wants a man who knows his own self-worth is independent of any relationship he may or may not be involved in.

In addition, if a man is kinda-sorta interested in a woman, and she is interested in him, she will put forth the effort to sustain his interest.
If he is completely gung-ho head-over-heels, she won't feel it necessary to put forth the effort, since he is obviously desperate for her attention already.


I am concerned about your constant references to ugliness. Being balding and overweight is not the end of the world, and females (as a general rule) place greater importance on personality than looks.
I would surmise that many people on this forum have attributes they consider less than attractive, such as (in my case) a pot-belly and bad skin. However, I don't feel the need to repeatedly announce my unattractiveness to strangers.
You may have a self-esteem problem that needs to be addressed, or it may be isolated to this specific thread. I'm new and haven't gotten to the point where I recognise handles, so I can't say whether this topic is frequently mentioned in your posting.

Stiletto One

There are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics. *cocks an eyebrow

Have faith!

But seriously, you'll find someone who likes you and whom you like. Quit worrying about it, and just worry about being sociable and a pleasant guy to be around�it gets noticed.