gravitybow

I agree 100%, doov, or else I wouldn't have spent a few hours wandering the Internet learning new things about wasps, bees, and flowers and then taking the time to show just a small part here. It's threads like this that get my own curiosity going, and that is why I responded to Daniel in the fashion I did. I'm still serious about not making a personal attack. I tried to express that before I called Daniel's argument "arrogance," a word I chose deliberately for its meaning, not meaning to inflame her:

I believed Daniel's post was pretentious through and through, appearing to have been pulled from the creationists' tired bag of evolutionary "stumpers." Those questions are written as if an answer is impossible to come by, and backed up by nonsense (No flowers, no bees. No bees, no flowers.). That is the position of "superior importance": I know something you can't answer, and any answer you give won't be good enough. How many times have we seen this?

Her first post started with a false statement that I called a "rocky start." There are any number of ways to repond to that characterization instead of putting full power to the forward deflector shields. Another red flag.

Daniel says she's an infidel, but the wording reads like creationistic posturing. I believe Martin alludes to that:
Unfortunately, after I took the time to post about bees and flowers, Daniel got hung up on the word "arrogance" instead of the points made. Instant derailment. I am sorry that was what happened. But after finding so much information just a few key strokes away, I also believed "arrogance" was applicable since her claimed "holes" were so easily filled. That is also why I stated that someone else told her it was a stumper, and she was merely repeating it, because if she had actively involved herself with finding a small portion of the information out there, I don't think she would have asked the questions she did in the manner she took. They sound exactly like the misinformed, simplified questions that go around in Sunday schools and Bible studies as mysterious unanswerables.

The irony is that, Thanks to Daniel Erickson's question, I now know more than I ever did about bees, wasps, flowers, ants, sawflies, and the latest fossil finds. Oh, and that I have an impotent sex life.

But what did Daniel Erickson learn?

Daniel, if you are saying here and now that I have misread your intent and that you are genuinely after real answers, I readily retract the above statement. But since we have seen the same opening tactics by "innocent" newbies from the creationist playbook before, I reserve the right to be wary of your intent. Fair enough?

Now, if it is possible to see past any real or percieved offenses and let cooler heads prevail, Martin asks diplomatically:

I think this would be a good place to get back on track. And I won't think any less if Daniel Erickson will rejoin the discussion.

cowardly hiding in secrecy and rage,
gravitybow

tensorproduct

No. veracity

Joe Meert

I definately won't spell definitely wrong again...

DOH!!:banghead:

Cheers

Joe Meert

Arikay

Bisides, wen did spilling evor afeckt fackts?

A Good tip though, whenever you correct someones grammar, you should always spell their name right.

But anyway, back to the questions, even though it doesn't appear the friend who asked them is willing to stick around and listen to the answers.

Dr.GH

Gee, I missed the fun.

Duvenoy

(hehehe)

Doc, you really didn't miss a whole lot. Sadly, Danny came in with a little of the usual, got politly burned, got pissed-off, and then left in a huff. Will there be an encore? Who knows?

doov

Daggah

Interesting. Somehow, not posting under our real names makes us cowardly, and yet...the only one afraid to respond to the substantive points made in this thread is Daniel here.

By the way, my full name, in case anyone thinks I'm hiding, is David Gevert, from Lake Wylie, South Carolina.

Dr Rick

THE David Gevert?!

Please stay where you are and remain brave; the black helicopters have been dispatched...

Always yours,
Agent Smith

KC

Misdirection. We could not care less how well you did on the verbal SAT's (you might want to work on your own grammar, however: 'I getting very sick' ). Please focus your attention on the detailed rebuttals you have received thus far.

Were your high school biology grades as good as your pedantry?

KC

Paul2

This thread made me laugh and cry at the same time.