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conkermaniac · 08-13-2003, 06:35 AM

Why not just partition your hard disk and install Linux and Windows side by side? I'm planning on using Linux for my programming needs and Windows for other software (including games) that are not supported by Linux.

GunnerJ · 08-13-2003, 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by conkermaniac
Why not just partition your hard disk and install Linux and Windows side by side? I'm planning on using Linux for my programming needs and Windows for other software (including games) that are not supported by Linux.

Some people in my dorm tried to do this last semester. Appearently there's some sort of copy protection bullshit in XP that reformats the hard drive when you attempt to do this (or something, I'm working from memory here).

GunnerJ · 08-13-2003, 07:13 AM

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Edited to add: I too am considering just playing games on my PS2 - I will just have to get the keyboard and mouse for controls! I cant stand trying to play FPS's with a game controller.

W00t! There simply is no substitute. This is why I simply couldn't get through GTA. (Yeah, yeah, not an FPS per se, but the control scheme is the same as all the attempts to make FPS work on consoles, with the locking on shit.)

Even worse is RTS. I heard that they actually had to tone down the difficulty severely for N64 StarCraft to make up for not being able to use a mouse.

Heathen Dawn · 08-13-2003, 07:21 AM

The Microsoftian OSes delete the master boot record and install a boot loader of their own that does not recognise Linux as an option. You should install the MS OS first and Linux second, that way you'll get the Linux boot loader (LILO or GRUB, whichever you choose) on your master boot record.

ashe · 08-13-2003, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by Autonemesis
Speaking of PS2, doesn't Linux have an open-source Playstation / PS2 / Gameboy / 80's arcade ROM / Genesis / Atari / Nintendo emulator? I think it's called MAME, if memory serves. I think there's also a port to Windows, so you can plan your console games there, too.

That's not a shabby game library.

Yes, that is somewhat true.

While MAME is only an arcade emulator, it plays a vast library of arcade games, including NEO-GEO arcade games. Pretty impressive.

Nonetheless, there are emulators for the following and more in Linux:

Playstation
Nintendo 64
Super Nintendo
Game Boy (normal, color & advance)
Genesis
Atari
Nintendo
Apple ii
Commodore 64
Lucasarts games (SCUMM engine)
Ultima 7
etc etc etc

I'm sure I've missed quite alot.

In addition, there are many commercial games ported to Linux, that run under WINE or WINEX, and many games that are written specifically for Linux. Having said that, more games are currently being written for Windows alone.

If you must play something on Windows, dual-boot.

Octokun · 08-13-2003, 10:24 AM

I'm already seriously considering installing Linux but sadly the computer I use isn't mine to do that to.

Windows is driving me up the wall already with it's constant freezing right when I'm doing something crucial, so it's great that Linux can run emulation as thats the only form of games I play on the PC!

butswana · 08-13-2003, 10:34 AM

I don't understand why so many people have trouble with Windows. I have two machines. Both are running W98se. One is my gaming rig, the other is the internet machine. They never lock up. The only time they get shut down is when a storm is coming and they only get rebooted when I do driver changes or install/uninstall software.
If Windows is so shitty, I should be painfully aware of it. Im' not, therefor Bill Gates is GOD.

fando · 08-13-2003, 10:39 AM

An actual data point: I run XP and Linux simultaneously. To avoid having XP screw with my Linux, I placed Linux on a separate physical hard disk and use the NT bootloader to boot it. I could use grub, but my setup works fine. You will need bootpart to do this. It is by far the path of least resistance for someone who wishes to experiment with Linux. As for putting both OSes on a single hard drive... well, that's why I have two hard disks.

Z500 · 08-13-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by seebs
MAME doesn't do the PS2, and probably not even the PS. It emulates *ARCADE* machines, not home consoles.

AFAIK, nothing can emulate a PS2. it has too much specific hardware dedicated to doing certain things that a single CPU emulating it all would go too slowly

Tigermilk · 08-14-2003, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by GunnerJ
W00t! There simply is no substitute. This is why I simply couldn't get through GTA. (Yeah, yeah, not an FPS per se, but the control scheme is the same as all the attempts to make FPS work on consoles, with the locking on shit.)

Even worse is RTS. I heard that they actually had to tone down the difficulty severely for N64 StarCraft to make up for not being able to use a mouse.

I just couldn't play Morrowind on the Xbox, but now I have a PC version and can't leave it alone. Nothing beats a mouse and keyboard for FPS gaming.

Couldn't play that Panzer Dragoon game or whatever it was called either - it makes my thumbs ache.

08-13-2003, 10:24 AM	#16
Octokun Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 499	Re: Re: Re: Re: But can Linux play games? I'm already seriously considering installing Linux but sadly the computer I use isn't mine to do that to. Windows is driving me up the wall already with it's constant freezing right when I'm doing something crucial, so it's great that Linux can run emulation as thats the only form of games I play on the PC!

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08-13-2003, 06:35 AM	#11
conkermaniac Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: American in China Posts: 620	Why not just partition your hard disk and install Linux and Windows side by side? I'm planning on using Linux for my programming needs and Windows for other software (including games) that are not supported by Linux.

08-13-2003, 07:21 AM	#14
Heathen Dawn Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,656	The Microsoftian OSes delete the master boot record and install a boot loader of their own that does not recognise Linux as an option. You should install the MS OS first and Linux second, that way you'll get the Linux boot loader (LILO or GRUB, whichever you choose) on your master boot record.

08-13-2003, 10:34 AM	#17
butswana Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,804	I don't understand why so many people have trouble with Windows. I have two machines. Both are running W98se. One is my gaming rig, the other is the internet machine. They never lock up. The only time they get shut down is when a storm is coming and they only get rebooted when I do driver changes or install/uninstall software. If Windows is so shitty, I should be painfully aware of it. Im' not, therefor Bill Gates is GOD.

08-13-2003, 10:39 AM	#18
fando Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Los Angeles Area Posts: 1,372	An actual data point: I run XP and Linux simultaneously. To avoid having XP screw with my Linux, I placed Linux on a separate physical hard disk and use the NT bootloader to boot it. I could use grub, but my setup works fine. You will need bootpart to do this. It is by far the path of least resistance for someone who wishes to experiment with Linux. As for putting both OSes on a single hard drive... well, that's why I have two hard disks.

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