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Roland98 · 08-07-2003, 12:50 PM

This comes from a quote on a Christian discussion board, regarding what she would do were she God:

Quote:

I will feel remorse when they shake their fists into the air and exclaim, "There is no God!"

I hear variations of this quote a lot.

So my question is for the atheists: have you ever shook your fist in the air and proclaimed such a thing? Ever even thought about it? Ever even shouted the line aloud with passion?

I just think the whole thing is so silly, it makes me laugh whenever I see it written due to the mental image it conjures up.

Novowels · 08-07-2003, 12:56 PM

Yeah, right after I'm finished shaking my fist in the air and saying, "There is no Santa!"

Mageth · 08-07-2003, 12:57 PM

No, but I do occasionally shoot the bird at Pat Robertson on TV.

Howard · 08-07-2003, 01:18 PM

I�ve done my share of fist-shaking but it�s usually accompanied by, �God, I�m good!�

lisarea · 08-07-2003, 01:28 PM

I sometimes do this thing in response to minor frustrations and such where I shake my fist in the air, throw my arms up, and yell, "NOOO! NOOOOO!!!! WHY? OH, GOD, WHYYYYYY?!?!?!" I then drop to my knees, cursing the gods all the while. I stole this idea from my brother.

The next time I drop something or the batteries in the remote die, I will be sure to add "THERE IS NO GOD!" to my repetoire of laments.

missus_gumby · 08-07-2003, 01:38 PM

I have never proclaimed "there is no god!"

However, I was attending a (humanist) funeral last monday, and after the ceremony was in conversation with the attending funeral director. I asked him if he was religious, and he replied in a roundabout way that he wasn't. He then offered a short story: recently his (christian) mother had died of cancer. He told me that in her last moments his mother had said, "there is no god, because if there was, he wouldn't allow anyone to suffer like I have." I have no reason to think he was fabricating his mother's last words.

Maybe some people do exclaim "there is no god", but sometimes its generally for the right reasons.

Martin

MollyMac · 08-07-2003, 03:38 PM

Yeah I've done this a few times when I've lost my rag after some idiotic comment by a theist - although my fist is usually banged on a table rather than shaken in the air. The last time I recall was when a Roman Catholic acquaintance I bumped into mentioned a friend of his had committed suicide. He said nothing about the guy's life of what had gone wrong with it - just 'Well, he's in hell now. Suicide is a sin against God.' :banghead:

WWSD · 08-07-2003, 03:38 PM

I shake my fist at a lot of things, gunslinger. But I don't think I've ever made the proclaimation.

Usually when I am shaking my fist, I'm doing it at someone and saying "I'll get you!" or a similar statement.

Myabe I oughta should do so at the sky and tell god "I'll get you!"

theyeti · 08-07-2003, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Roland98
So my question is for the atheists: have you ever shook your fist in the air and proclaimed such a thing? Ever even thought about it? Ever even shouted the line aloud with passion?

Not exactly, but once while having an argument about the existence of God, I jumped up on my desk and yelled, "Alright God, you faker, strike me down with a bolt of lighting right now! I dare you!" He didn't do it.

theyeti

ex-xian · 08-07-2003, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by lisarea
I sometimes do this thing in response to minor frustrations and such where I shake my fist in the air, throw my arms up, and yell, "NOOO! NOOOOO!!!! WHY? OH, GOD, WHYYYYYY?!?!?!" I then drop to my knees, cursing the gods all the while. I stole this idea from my brother.

The next time I drop something or the batteries in the remote die, I will be sure to add "THERE IS NO GOD!" to my repetoire of laments.

Ha! This made me think about the song "Why does this Always Happen to Me?" From Weird Al's newest album, Poodle Hat.

Quote:

I was watching my TV one night when they broke in with a special report
About dsome devistating earthquake in Peru
There were thirty thousand crushed to death, even more were buried alive
On the Richter scale it measured 8.2

And I said, "God, please answer me one question?"
"Why'd they have to interrupt 'The Simpsons' just for this?"
What a drag, 'cause I was taping it and everything
And now I'll have to wait for the rerun to see the part of the show I missed

Why does this always happen?
Why does this always happen to me?
Why does this always happen?
(Why) Why does this always happen to me?

I was driving down the highway when all the traffic slowed to a crawl
There was a twelve-car pile-up, everybody dead
And I saw brains and guts and vital organs splattered everywhere
As well as my friend Robert's disembodied head

And I thought - Poor Rob, I just had lunch with him
Hey, wait a minute, he still owes me money - what a jerk
Well, there's five bucks that I'm never gonna see again
Plus now, on top of everything else, it looks like I'm gonna be late to work

(Chorus)

Oh, the other day, my boss said we were running low on toner
And he told me I should buy another case
Well, I told him I was busy, but he still just kept on asking
So, I turned around and stabbed him in the face (right in the face)

Oh, and wouldn't you know it, my knife got stuck
I guess that's probably bound to happen now and then
But I'm afraid I may have bent the tip a little
And I know that blade will never ever be quite as sharp again (quite as sharp again)
Oh, tell me

(Chorus)

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08-07-2003, 12:56 PM	#2
Novowels Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,658	Yeah, right after I'm finished shaking my fist in the air and saying, "There is no Santa!"

08-07-2003, 12:57 PM	#3
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	No, but I do occasionally shoot the bird at Pat Robertson on TV.

08-07-2003, 01:18 PM	#4
Howard Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 5,864	I�ve done my share of fist-shaking but it�s usually accompanied by, �God, I�m good!�

08-07-2003, 01:28 PM	#5
lisarea Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Broomfield, Colorado, USA Posts: 5,550	I sometimes do this thing in response to minor frustrations and such where I shake my fist in the air, throw my arms up, and yell, "NOOO! NOOOOO!!!! WHY? OH, GOD, WHYYYYYY?!?!?!" I then drop to my knees, cursing the gods all the while. I stole this idea from my brother. The next time I drop something or the batteries in the remote die, I will be sure to add "THERE IS NO GOD!" to my repetoire of laments.

08-07-2003, 01:38 PM	#6
missus_gumby Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	I have never proclaimed "there is no god!" However, I was attending a (humanist) funeral last monday, and after the ceremony was in conversation with the attending funeral director. I asked him if he was religious, and he replied in a roundabout way that he wasn't. He then offered a short story: recently his (christian) mother had died of cancer. He told me that in her last moments his mother had said, "there is no god, because if there was, he wouldn't allow anyone to suffer like I have." I have no reason to think he was fabricating his mother's last words. Maybe some people do exclaim "there is no god", but sometimes its generally for the right reasons. Martin

08-07-2003, 03:38 PM	#7
MollyMac Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 2,125	Yeah I've done this a few times when I've lost my rag after some idiotic comment by a theist - although my fist is usually banged on a table rather than shaken in the air. The last time I recall was when a Roman Catholic acquaintance I bumped into mentioned a friend of his had committed suicide. He said nothing about the guy's life of what had gone wrong with it - just 'Well, he's in hell now. Suicide is a sin against God.' :banghead:

08-07-2003, 03:38 PM	#8
WWSD Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Albucrazy, New Mexico Posts: 1,425	I shake my fist at a lot of things, gunslinger. But I don't think I've ever made the proclaimation. Usually when I am shaking my fist, I'm doing it at someone and saying "I'll get you!" or a similar statement. Myabe I oughta should do so at the sky and tell god "I'll get you!"

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