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Zenaphobe · 09-29-2002, 09:12 AM

Does anyone know if this group is legitamate and peer reviewed?

There is a person on another forum who keeps linking to these guys saying that the government is suppressing knowledge of alternative energy theories.

I dont know enough science to call it BS, but it sure smells funny on the surface.

Can anyone help? Thanks

<a href="http://www.cheniere.org/misc/adas.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cheniere.org/misc/adas.htm</a>

beoba · 09-29-2002, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Zenaphobe:
<strong>it sure smells funny on the surface.</strong>

I agree. I haven't heard of them either.

Coragyps · 09-29-2002, 11:47 AM

Just reading the first couple of paragraphs, I would have to say, "If it quacks like a duck...."

RealityCheck · 09-29-2002, 12:17 PM

<a href="http://www.cheniere.org/misc/adas.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cheniere.org/misc/adas.htm</a>

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Also, with inventor John Bedini's permission, we published a paper explaining his
overunity process whereby he is able to form a negative resistor in a storage battery
powering a circuit, then dephase the battery ion current internally between the plates from
the electron current from the outside of the plates into the external circuit, so that the
system charges its battery while powering its load, all the energy being received freely
from the active vacuum via the Bedini negative resistor effect.

Overunity = perpetual motion machine
Negative resistor = perpetual motion machine

One has to wonder if a battery charger would be the instrument of choice for dephasing a
battery.

Originally posted by Zenaphobe:

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There is a person on another forum who keeps linking to these guys saying that the government is suppressing knowledge of alternative energy theories.

The great government conspiracy is a classic tactic for defending quack ideas.

Edited to fix URL

[ September 29, 2002: Message edited by: RealityCheck ]</p>

galiel · 09-29-2002, 12:48 PM

Check our "Eric's Skpetic Page" for everything, I mean *everything*, you could possibly want to know about "free energy" claims and the men who love them.

<a href="http://www.users.voicenet.com/~eric/skeptic/" target="_blank">http://www.users.voicenet.com/~eric/skeptic/</a>

Zenaphobe · 09-29-2002, 01:25 PM

Thanks for the input and the resource link.

I was pretty sure it was bunk, but I dont know enough about the stuff.

[ September 29, 2002: Message edited by: Zenaphobe ]</p>

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09-29-2002, 11:47 AM	#3
Coragyps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Snyder,Texas,USA Posts: 4,411	Just reading the first couple of paragraphs, I would have to say, "If it quacks like a duck...."

09-29-2002, 12:48 PM	#5
galiel Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Eastern Massachusetts Posts: 1,677	Check our "Eric's Skpetic Page" for everything, I mean everything, you could possibly want to know about "free energy" claims and the men who love them. <a href="http://www.users.voicenet.com/~eric/skeptic/" target="_blank">http://www.users.voicenet.com/~eric/skeptic/</a>

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Zenaphobe Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the NC trailer park Posts: 6,631	Thanks for the input and the resource link. I was pretty sure it was bunk, but I dont know enough about the stuff. [ September 29, 2002: Message edited by: Zenaphobe ]</p>

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