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MadKally · 05-05-2002, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Frank Zappa, American musician (1940-1993).

"Who you jivin' with that cosmic debris?"
"Reality is what it is, not what you want it to be."
"If you want to get together in any exclusive situation and have people love you, fine -- but to hang all this desperate sociology on the idea of The Cloud-Guy who has The Big Book, who knows if you've been bad or good -- and CARES about any of it -- to hang it all on that, folks, is the chimpanzee part of the brain working."

[The Real Frank Zappa Book, ("Church and State" chapter) by Frank Zappa and Peter Occhiogrosso, p. 301]

Herman Hedning · 05-05-2002, 08:57 AM

Here's one of my absolute favourites from Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert:

Here lies a toppled god --
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

abe smith · 05-13-2002, 06:18 AM

Jolly old german/Luther"s? drinking song : "Wer nicht liebt Wein, Weib und Gesang..." is the chorus of a standard students's & US troops-there's sloshingsong: "Im kuehlen Keller sitz ich hier, mit einem Flasch voll Reben..."; it has at best a vocal range of 2 or maybe further octaves {Like Mozart's Q of the Night aria}. Great fun. Probably find it, words & tune on-line, why-not? Anybody know [also Mozart's, a round>>>} "Alles schweiget, Nachtigallen" lovely. Find it, learn it, sing it. Abe I do know it ok; but don't know how to put it here. Too bad.

Ierrellus · 05-14-2002, 04:47 AM

"Malt does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to Man."
A. E. Housman

Ierrellus

Nu · 05-14-2002, 09:14 PM

God is a dream of good government.

phaedrus · 05-23-2002, 10:37 PM

Flicked this from another msg board...while i dont know the exact book, assuming it is from Terry Pratchett's series (correct me if i am wrong)

Quote:

Making history, it turned out, was quite easy.
It was what got written down.
It was as simple as that!"
- Sir Sam Vimes.

Ongoing Lucidity · 05-26-2002, 05:41 AM

I have a bunch clipboarded on my home computer, but alas, I am not there right now.

So I'll give you a personal fav, said by none other than the great comedian Bill Hicks, RIP.

Quote:

There is no such thing as death, life is but a dream within the imagination of ourselves

I feel better now just recalling that

Ongoing Lucidity · 05-26-2002, 05:50 AM

the guy who posted the quote that kindness is the only thing that matters, strange you believe that...,,.

Incidentally my international business lecturer made a statement which had quite an impact on me. He said:

Quote:

...it is always evil people that are the most productive. But you already knew that didn't ya?

odd for an IB lecturer to say such a thing... Anyone else find there's a whole bunch of truth to that statement?

fwh · 05-26-2002, 12:22 PM

"The more enlightened our houses are,
the more their walls ooze ghosts."
Italo Calvino

"And yet, it just won't go away:
I feel it and cannot understand it;
cannot hold on to it,
nor yet forget it;
and if I grasp it wholly,
I cannot measure it!
Richard Wagner

"....because it is something we can do
with ourselves in the water, drowning
should be included as one of the
different ways of swimming.
Owen Barfield

thefugitivesaint · 05-27-2002, 04:25 PM

Quote:

as long as we have lips and voices which
are for kissing and to sing with
who cares if some one-eyed sonofabitch
invents an instrument to measure spring with?-
e.e. cummings

Quote:

unbeingdead isn't beingalive.-
e.e. cummings

Quote:

If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance.-
Gil Atkinson

Quote:

Do not fear death so much but rather the inadequate life.-
Bertolt Brecht

Quote:

A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men.-
Emily Dickinson

Quote:

Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.-
Susan Ertz

Quote:

Down with a world in which the guarantee that we will not die of starvation has been purchased with the guarantee that we will die of boredom.-
Graffito, Paris, 1968

Quote:

Is there life before death?-
Graffito, Belfast

Quote:

The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.-
H. L. Mencken

Quote:

Do what I say or burn in hell, is not free will. It's coercion, not freedom.-
Duane Alan Hahn

Quote:

Most men would kill the truth if truth would kill their religion.-
Lemuel K. Washburn

Quote:

We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.-
H.L. Mencken

Quote:

Be daring, be different, be impractical, be anything that will assert integrity of purpose and imaginative vision against the play-it-safers, the creatures of the commonplace, the slaves of the ordinary.-
Sir Cecil Beaton

Quote:

Security is mostly a superstition.
It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure.

Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.
~Helen Keller

Quote:

After the game the king and the pawn go in the same box.
~Italian proverb

This one is from the former police chief and Mayor of Philadelphia, my place of birth and current residence (the man was an idiot)

Quote:

The streets are safe in Philadelphia. It's only the people who make
them unsafe. ~Frank Rizzo, ex~police chief and mayor of Philadelphia

Quote:

This is the true joy in life, being used for a purpose recognized by yourself as a mighty one. Being a force of nature instead of a feverish, selfish little clod of ailments and grievances complaining that the world will not devote itself to making you happy. I am of the opinion that my life belongs to the whole community and as I live it is my privilege -- my privilege to do for it whatever I can. I want to be thoroughly used up when I die, for the harder I work the more I love. I rejoice in life for its own sake. Life is no brief candle to me; it is a sort of splendid torch which I've got a hold of for the moment and I want to make it burn as brightly as possible before handing it on to future generations." -- Bernhard Shaw

Quote:

Oh you can be what you want to be,
See what you want to see,
Believe in yourself,
Believe in yourself.
Go where you want to go,
Do what you want to do
Believe in yourself,
Believe in yourself.
Some folks try to tell you there are things you shouldn't do
You're not strong enough or smart enough at all,
But what seems right to them quite often
Might be wrong for you,
So be sure you try to climb
Before you get too scared you fall.
Oh, you can be what you want to be,
Learn what you want to learn,
Believe in yourself,
Believe in yourself.
Try what you need to try,
No one should question why,
Believe in yourself,
Believe in yourself.
Folks may say you're different,
That you've gone and lost your senses,
But the world is yours to walk in,
Go ahead and leap the fences.
And you'll see,
Believe in yourself
And the world belongs to you and me.
~~Believe In Yourself, song from Sesame Street

I'll end on the Sesame Street tip.
-theSaint

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05-05-2002, 08:57 AM	#62
Herman Hedning Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 189	Here's one of my absolute favourites from Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert: Here lies a toppled god -- His fall was not a small one. We did but build his pedestal, A narrow and a tall one.

05-13-2002, 06:18 AM	#63
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	Jolly old german/Luther"s? drinking song : "Wer nicht liebt Wein, Weib und Gesang..." is the chorus of a standard students's & US troops-there's sloshingsong: "Im kuehlen Keller sitz ich hier, mit einem Flasch voll Reben..."; it has at best a vocal range of 2 or maybe further octaves {Like Mozart's Q of the Night aria}. Great fun. Probably find it, words & tune on-line, why-not? Anybody know [also Mozart's, a round>>>} "Alles schweiget, Nachtigallen" lovely. Find it, learn it, sing it. Abe I do know it ok; but don't know how to put it here. Too bad.

05-14-2002, 04:47 AM	#64
Ierrellus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,082	"Malt does more than Milton can To justify God's ways to Man." A. E. Housman Ierrellus

05-14-2002, 09:14 PM	#65
Nu Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nu Posts: 58	God is a dream of good government.

05-26-2002, 12:22 PM	#69
fwh Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Centralia, Il. Posts: 76	"The more enlightened our houses are, the more their walls ooze ghosts." Italo Calvino "And yet, it just won't go away: I feel it and cannot understand it; cannot hold on to it, nor yet forget it; and if I grasp it wholly, I cannot measure it! Richard Wagner "....because it is something we can do with ourselves in the water, drowning should be included as one of the different ways of swimming. Owen Barfield

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