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PatrickHays · 02-04-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazel-rah

". . . said Johnson, who acknowledged he was not clear on precisely how either drug worked."

I think it is a good thing to legislate regarding something that one has no knowledge concerning how it works. :angry: Typical politics . . . Not just in this state, but all states and nationally. :banghead:

outsider · 02-05-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Underseer

You're making a bad assumption, guys. You're taking the rhetoric of religious conservatives at face value and believing them when they say "We just wanna save the lives of all them little babies!"

They don't care about human life at all. That much should be apparent when you look at how they insist on treating those who are actually born, alive and breathing. This never was about "life," it's always been about denying women power over their own bodies and re-relegating them to the status of live-in domestic and baby factory. If you look at it from that perspective, the decision to ban contraceptives makes perfect sense.

I believe this is the case sometimes, wether it be from men who, like you say, want women re-relegated to a lower status, or from women who believe in the "traditional" marraige.

Ovazor · 02-06-2005, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Underseer

They don't care about human life at all. That much should be apparent when you look at how they insist on treating those who are actually born, alive and breathing. This never was about "life," it's always been about denying women power over their own bodies and re-relegating them to the status of live-in domestic and baby factory. If you look at it from that perspective, the decision to ban contraceptives makes perfect sense.

I think it includes a fair deal of "sex is immoral unless you have babies in the process"

MonCapitan2002 · 02-06-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Underseer

You're making a bad assumption, guys. You're taking the rhetoric of religious conservatives at face value and believing them when they say "We just wanna save the lives of all them little babies!"

They don't care about human life at all. That much should be apparent when you look at how they insist on treating those who are actually born, alive and breathing. This never was about "life," it's always been about denying women power over their own bodies and re-relegating them to the status of live-in domestic and baby factory. If you look at it from that perspective, the decision to ban contraceptives makes perfect sense.

I would have to agree with this sentiment. They also probably think that sex should be only for making babies. What a bunch of fucking idiots. If they weren't so powerful politically, I would point at them and laugh.

B_Sharp · 02-06-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazel-rah

And yes, I will be firing off several strongly worded letters to the AJC and my local representatives.

Why?? Quit forcing your will upon others. Have respect for the libertiy of others.

MonCapitan2002 · 02-06-2005, 09:03 AM

How can she respect such liberty when there is a law being passed that would infringe upon the liberty of countless women? In my opinion, they do not have the right to deny a requested medication if the pharmacy stocks it. If men were the ones carrying the babies, this wouldn't even be an issue. You can be damned sure that there would be no laws blocking access to contraceptive measures.

atechnie · 02-06-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel

God, the greatest abortionist of all.

And they have no problem worshipping him - and asking everybody else to worship him. But god forbid that humans try to get rid of unwanted pregnancies.

I wonder if these Republicans would also be for surgeons refusing to operate on gays because of "moral or religious" reasons?

-atechnie

Z500 · 02-06-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins

2/3's of all conceptions end in natural abortions. A stat I always find amazing... with respect to people who think conception is the beginning of life.

Reference?

Jimmy Higgins · 02-06-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Z500

Reference?

My bad. Its only 50%. I wonder where my 2/3's come from.
reference

Barbarossa · 02-06-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins

My bad. Its only 50%. I wonder where my 2/3's come from.
reference

Now all those "natural" abortions will need to be investigated as possible homicides.

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MonCapitan2002 Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: --- Posts: 10,496	How can she respect such liberty when there is a law being passed that would infringe upon the liberty of countless women? In my opinion, they do not have the right to deny a requested medication if the pharmacy stocks it. If men were the ones carrying the babies, this wouldn't even be an issue. You can be damned sure that there would be no laws blocking access to contraceptive measures.

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