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Old 05-24-2003, 10:05 PM   #1
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Default Hitler: Man of Klarity and Kultur

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I said I wasn't going to discuss Hitler anymore on this forum. Pardon my obsessive one track mind, if you will.

I have to comment about this film. What a gross distortion it was. Absolutely sickening. How can they lob this crap off on us and call it history? Even any serious conformist historian would laugh if you called that miniseries historically accurate. Ian Kershaw, the one whose book supposedly inspired the film, didn't want to touch the project with a ten foot pole.

Our F�hrer was very much the opposite of the film's distorted portrayal of Him. He was never a 'fanatic', but a sharp, clear-headed realist. That Germanic tendency to metaphysical flights of fantasy never afflicted Him.

If one reads Mein Kampf, or the 'Second Book', or 'Hitler's Table Talk', or His 'Last Will and Testament', then one finds that this assertion of mine is ably demonstrated. Hitler reveals Himself as a man of Clarity.

He was though, a man with a great affinity for the arts, as well as being an exquisite draughtsman Himself. As Leader He was a superb patron of the arts.

However, 'The Jews and their lies '(to quote another German reformer, Martin Luther), have tried to portray Our Wolf as 'insane', 'delusional' and as a so-called 'house painter'!

After the Ragnarok of 1945 these same liars even stole and destroyed great works of high art from Das Dritte Reich.

However, the lies and crimes of these people are written in the annals of truth.

Heil Hitler! o/ o/ o/

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[Edited for obscenity -- MT]

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Er...Mark...Had Hitler been sane, the Germans would have won WWII. Twas his constant interference in the generalship that caused disaster after disaster; had he let his generals be the generals, the German war machine would likely have been unstoppable.
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Er...Mark...Had Hitler been sane, the Germans would have won WWII. Twas his constant interference in the generalship that caused disaster after disaster; had he let his generals be the generals, the German war machine would likely have been unstoppable.
Nahhh, we still would have whooped 'em.
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Mmm...let's see if I can get this to sound right...


BWAH HA HA HA HA!!!!


I've written my fair share of comedic material, but Mark, you take the cake.

That is some really, really funny shit.

Ever think about doing stand up? You could do a whole Hitler-themed routine! Wear a brown shirt, shout and salute a lot, and play up the "is he SERIOUS?" card.

Oh, boy...you crack me up!
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Hitler reveals Himself as a man of Clarity.
Your Fuhrer was, in fact, a man of Syphilis.

Tertiary Syphilis tends to have a nasty effect on one's Clarity.

Why don't you go back to mutilating yourself with your Hitler Youth knife? Leave us normals alone.
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I would appreciate a private message if my entries are editied with regard to Nazis. I lost 1/3 of my family in the Holocaust, and I'm a little sensitive about it.

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However, 'The Jews and their lies '(to quote another German reformer, Martin Luther), have tried to portray Our Wolf as 'insane', 'delusional' and as a so-called 'house painter'!
what's a fuck or two?

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Talking Hitler: Man of Kraziness and Kruelty

I'd like to put Mark and Totalitarianist in a paper bag and watch them, um, interact.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I said I wasn't going to discuss Hitler anymore on this forum. Pardon my obsessive one track mind, if you will.
Do you know, I rather think I won't?
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Our F�hrer was very much the opposite of the film's distorted portrayal of Him. He was never a 'fanatic', but a sharp, clear-headed realist. That Germanic tendency to metaphysical flights of fantasy never afflicted Him.
Quoted from Mein Kampf: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
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He was though, a man with a great affinity for the arts, as well as being an exquisite draughtsman Himself. As Leader He was a superb patron of the arts.
I found some images of Hitler's art at what looks like a Nazi site here (they claim to be "politically neutral"; but there is no mention of any concentration camp victims in their tally of WWII deaths, and the colour scheme is a dead giveaway). He was a competent draughtsman and a bland painter - not technically virtuosic, not ham-fisted either. His art is bland, uninspiring; if he was alive today, he'd probably be painting "The Life of Christ in Cats" on collectable plates for magazine adverts.

Regardless of his personal skill at drawing, his total inability to engage with 20th Century or "modern" art demonstrates that he was something of a philistine. At the time, European art was vibrant and experimental, with massive leaps being taken in terms of representation and composition; yet Hitler preferred infantile depictions of idyllic countryside scenes and idealised human figures in stilted and formal poses. I'm sure that if he was around today, he would be the kind of person who collects Boris Vallejo coffee-table books and Mona Lisa posters. That has zero bearing on the issue of his syphilitic instability or murderous and half-baked racial theories.
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Yeah, that's just great. You must be such a bad-assed rebel. My mind is just utterly "blown".
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However, the lies and crimes of these people are written in the annals of truth.
I agree....

Leaflets of The White Rose

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Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct. It is certain that today every honest German is ashamed of his government. Who among us has any conception of the dimensions of shame that will befall us and our children when one day the veil has fallen from our eyes and the most horrible of crimes - crimes that infinitely outdistance every human measure - reach the light of day?
Leaflet 5:

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Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the protection of individual citizens from the abritrary will of criminal regimes of violence-these will be the bases of the New Europe.

Support the resistance. Distribute the leaflets!


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