Dr Rick

After the Civil War, "by illegal and violent means the Dixiecrats expelled the cooperating Blacks and Whites from the state governments. Efforts to organize biracial militias could not suffice against the forces developed by the illegal elements. The national army was sent in once by General Grant to curb Klan violence under the Force Acts. Between 1865 and 1868 in Texas [alone], an official and perhaps correct report came up with 509 White and 486 freedman killings, but almost all the White deaths came at the hands of other Whites. There were scores of lethal riots occurring throughout the period."

Lestat de Lioncourt

Would someone please tell me what year this is (you know, the one we are currently living in where real events taking place 'here and now' affect the present and our future)!!!!!!?!!!!!!

Lestat

Monkeybot

Lestat, would you please calm down? I am pointing out a factor, not justifying the end result. I'm not disagreeing that race may have been a factor, but it certainly wasn't the only one. And I'm not even attacking you, so you don't have to get so heated towards me.

I mean, I feel like I'm having the following exchanges:

Me: "Economic impoverishment was a factor in the Boxer Rebellion."

You: "You're saying it's OK for Chinese people to destroy property and kill foreigners?!"

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Me: "The Protestant marches in Northern Ireland led to tension between Catholics and police."

You: "You're saying it's OK for Catholics and police officers to kill each other and destroy property?!"

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Me: "Alcohol may have been a factor in some of the soccer riots in Russia (and everywhere else, really)."

You: "You're saying it's OK for drunk Russians to destroy property and assault Japanese people?!"

Monkeybot

Where on earth was I trying to justify the riots?

Monkeybot

How does Jesse Jackson's usual idiocy relate to what I said? I mean, seriously, I'll agree with you that Jackson is a Grade A media whore, but I don't think that should distract from some of the real issues facing Benton Harbor (and similarly impoverished towns).

Lestat de Lioncourt

I merely asked a question...so where in that question does it state let alone imply that I am getting "heated" with/at you?

Lestat

Monkeybot

Fair enough, Lestat. I was just sort of cheesed at having my meaning interpreted so wildly off-base (which may have just been me communicating poorly).

Dr Rick

Here's a list of the things Mr Jackson not do to harm Blacks...

"During the summer of 1964 over 3,000 students attended these schools and the experiment provided a model for future educational programs such as Head Start.

Freedom Schools were often targets of white mobs. So also were the homes of local African Americans involved in the campaign. That summer 30 black homes and 37 black churches were firebombed. Over 80 volunteers were beaten by white mobs or racist police officers and three men, James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner, were murdered by the Ku Klux Klan on 21st June, 1964. These deaths created nation-wide publicity for the campaign. "


"A lad whipped with branches until his back was ribboned flesh: a Negress beaten and left helpless to contract pneumonia from exposure and dies; a white girl, divorcee beaten into unconsciousness in her home; a naturalized foreigner flogged until his back was pulp because he married an American woman; a Negro lashed until he sold his land to a white man for a fraction of its value."

"In 1981 the trial of Josephus Andersonan, an African American charged with the murder of a white policeman, took place in Mobile. At the end of the case the jury was unable to reach a verdict. This upset members of the local Ku Klux Klan who believed that the reason for this was that some members of the jury were African Americans. At a meeting held after the trial, Bennie Hays, the second-highest ranking official in the Klan in Alabama said: "If a black man can get away with killing a white man, we ought to be able to get away with killing a black man."

On Saturday 21st March, 1981, Bennie Hays's son, Henry Hays, and James Knowles, decided they would get revenge for the failure of the courts to convict the man for killing a policeman. They travelled around Mobile in their car until they found nineteen year old Michael Donald walking home. After forcing him into the car Donald was taken into the next county where he was lynched."


Here's how another person destroyed someone elses' property in an act of protest, and some little girls were jsut in the way:

"On Sunday, 15th September, 1963, a white man was seen getting out of a white and turquoise Chevrolet car and placing a box under the steps of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church. Soon afterwards, at 10.22 a.m., the bomb exploded killing Denise McNair (11), Addie Mae Collins (14), Carole Robertson (14) and Cynthia Wesley (14). The four girls had been attending Sunday school classes at the church. Twenty-three other people were also hurt by the blast."

Yeah, what we need to make the world right is to stop coddling these blacks...

Lestat de Lioncourt

I think you need to see a real Doctor there Dr. Rick, as you are obviously suffering from an acute case of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance.

Lestat

smugg

Scared to correct my history, huh? Fine, I'm not above taking the discussion to your level as I promised:

I'm rubber and you're glue: whaterver you say bounces off me and sticks to you!

There, I fixed it for you. Honesty is important to me. Call it a quirk.