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Old 06-07-2003, 09:36 AM   #31
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And I'd want better evidence that some of the quotes were actually spoken by non-religious people. The Susan B. Anthony quote, for example--



--is quite similar to what my very Christian mother says from time to time in response to excessively fundamentalist people.

I think that if we accuse people (e.g. creationists) of quote-mining, it behooves us to be extremely cautious of the contexts and intentions behind the quotes that we use. IMHO. [/B]
Here's a nice one from Susan B. The source is the book Women without Superstition by AL Gaylor.

The quote was taken from a letter that Anthony wrote to her good friend Elizabeth Stanton Cady.

"You say 'women must be emancipated from their superstitions before enfranchisement will be of any benefit,' and I say just the reverse, that women must be enfranchised before they can be emancipated from their superstitions. Women would be no more superstitious today than men, if they had been men's political and business equals and gone outside the four walls of home and the other four of the church into the great world., and come in contact with and discussed men and measure on the plane of the mundane sphere, instead of living in the air with Jesus and the angels."
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Ok, so he's fictional, but I like the quote anyway.

Ferris Bueller:
"They could be fascist anarchists - that still wouldn't change the fact that I don't own a car. Not that I condone fascism, or any ism for that matter. Isms in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an ism - he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon: "I don't believe in Beatles - I just believe in me". A good point there. Of course, he was the Walrus. I could be the Walrus - I'd still have to bum rides off of people."
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As for the Vonnegut quote, I think there has to be a better one. I personally like, "Sometimes I wonder about the Creator of the Universe." in reference to something in Breakfast of Champions. Vonnegut rocks!
Well that's why I was hoping if any were totally bunk some here might be good enough to point them out. I'll research more as I get time.
Vonnegut...very I've been unable to stop using the phrase "Crazier than a shithouse rat" to describe certain people ever since I read Slaughterhouse Five when I was a teenager. Now all my friends use it to describe me, lol.
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Aww nuts, liv! You beat me to it. I was out of town this weekend and was not able to come here, so as I was reading this thread, I thought of this link, but then I thought, well, I'll just see if anyone's posted it yet. And of course, you have. I've got this one bookmarked!
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Almost any famous Marxist philosopher, and almost any famous Marxist leader, including Soviet leader and philosopher Stalin.

Two other Atheists you may have not mentioned: Einstein and probably Hawking (if an interview with him I read is correct). Despite the historians who adhere to the contrary, Einstein was an Atheist.

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I saw the Biography special on Vincent Van Gogh and Paul Gauguin. In it Van Gogh spent several years as a preacher until the church cut off his pay because he was too intense. After that he kind of cooled to the church, but I don't know that there is good evidence that he was an atheist.

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