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wade-w · 03-24-2003, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
I could say the same thing about you Justin, why should I listen to your arguments, when all anyone does on this board is insult me and make sarcastic remarks about what I believe in? Atheists have no desire to hear about religion and no matter what any theist says, they will ignore it, make rude remarks about it, or try their best to argue against it so they never have to accept what could be true.

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Hedwig · 03-24-2003, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
I could say the same thing about you Justin, why should I listen to your arguments, when all anyone does on this board is insult me and make sarcastic remarks about what I believe in? Atheists have no desire to hear about religion and no matter what any theist says, they will ignore it, make rude remarks about it, or try their best to argue against it so they never have to accept what could be true.

I don't know of any atheist on this forum who is closed off to the idea of being wrong. It's just that you cannot give us a convincing argument. You say the same thing over and over again and then complain about being persecuted and not being taken seriously. Honestly, has it occurred to you that we've heard these arguments many times before? And these arguments have been refuted? I understand you're relatively new to your faith and are eager to push your new faith forward (I was just like that...a fully functioning prostelytizing (sp?) Christian...for many years...so I can fully relate to your enthusiasm) but you aren't making very convincing arguments. I usually lurk up here and all the arguments you have been using are the same ones that turned out to be rather hollow when I finally looked at my faith.

my dog earl · 03-25-2003, 02:17 PM

Earl,

I think it's VERY important to consider one major thing:

No matter HOW well you formulate ANY argument/debate, unless the person is OPEN to listening and really really TAKING IN what you or someone else is saying, it isn't going to matter at ALL to them.

That's why I ignore it for the most part unless they REALLY want to hear it.

When someone isn't listening, nothing you say matters. So why even try? Just look at 90% of the posts by Magus55. Case in point.

I hear ya though, Earl, it's tough.

Justin

Thanks Justin, but if someone is open to freethinking then they aren't fundementalist christians, the objects of my distain.

You bet your bippy its tough.

And for all the Maguss bashers.....wouldn't this be a boring site if we didn't have people like him to respond to? I only wish he would invite more of his kind here to debate some of these issues. Maybe we could open some eyes

Yellum Notnef · 03-25-2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by my dog earl
I only wish he would invite more of his kind here to debate some of these issues. Maybe we could open some eyes

LOL!
Spoken like a guy with only 13 posts.

Let's see if your wish is the same after a few months of "debating" guys like Magus.

Good luck.

Magus55 · 03-25-2003, 03:43 PM

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I made a lengthy post asking WHY you are around. I don't understand why you choose to post to these boards when it's obvious you don't wish to indulge in empirical discussions or logical arguments. So I ask you again: Why are you here?

The same reason many atheists go to Christian message boards. To debate and defend their views. RR and Christian Forums are full of atheists, why do they waste their time there?

hezekiah jones · 03-25-2003, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Magus55
RR and Christian Forums are full of atheists, why do they waste their time there?

Comedy, I would imagine. [Personal comment deleted]

Hedwig · 03-25-2003, 04:05 PM

Magus, I took part in many a drama and debate tournament in high school. What you do is not debating.

wade-w · 03-25-2003, 05:16 PM

Keep it civil! I want to reiterate: Personal insults or comments are not tolerated here.

hezekiah jones · 03-25-2003, 06:00 PM

Sheesh. You make it look worse than it was. His posts are funny, what can I say.

my dog earl · 03-26-2003, 02:45 PM

Magus55...........Let me ask, why are you so passionate about spreading your beliefs? My original intent here was not for you and some of the others to get into a scrap but to ask for reasons why we are so passionate about our beliefs and or non-beliefs. Most of the time I don't know why I care so much, how about you? Is it because it is in the bible that you have to try to make us "see the truth", or another reason?

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03-25-2003, 02:17 PM	#43
my dog earl Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 149	Earl, I think it's VERY important to consider one major thing: No matter HOW well you formulate ANY argument/debate, unless the person is OPEN to listening and really really TAKING IN what you or someone else is saying, it isn't going to matter at ALL to them. That's why I ignore it for the most part unless they REALLY want to hear it. When someone isn't listening, nothing you say matters. So why even try? Just look at 90% of the posts by Magus55. Case in point. I hear ya though, Earl, it's tough. Justin Thanks Justin, but if someone is open to freethinking then they aren't fundementalist christians, the objects of my distain. You bet your bippy its tough. And for all the Maguss bashers.....wouldn't this be a boring site if we didn't have people like him to respond to? I only wish he would invite more of his kind here to debate some of these issues. Maybe we could open some eyes

03-25-2003, 03:54 PM	#46
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Originally posted by Magus55 RR and Christian Forums are full of atheists, why do they waste their time there? Comedy, I would imagine. [Personal comment deleted]

03-25-2003, 04:05 PM	#47
Hedwig Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,921	Magus, I took part in many a drama and debate tournament in high school. What you do is not debating.

03-25-2003, 05:16 PM	#48
wade-w Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Silver City, New Mexico Posts: 1,872	Keep it civil! I want to reiterate: Personal insults or comments are not tolerated here.

03-25-2003, 06:00 PM	#49
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Sheesh. You make it look worse than it was. His posts are funny, what can I say.

03-26-2003, 02:45 PM	#50
my dog earl Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 149	Magus55...........Let me ask, why are you so passionate about spreading your beliefs? My original intent here was not for you and some of the others to get into a scrap but to ask for reasons why we are so passionate about our beliefs and or non-beliefs. Most of the time I don't know why I care so much, how about you? Is it because it is in the bible that you have to try to make us "see the truth", or another reason?

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