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MortalWombat · 06-09-2003, 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by Ultimate Atheist
The battle with Yoda and Dooku was horrible. Yoda looked totally fake with all his flipping and jumping off the walls. And its just silly to see a grown man battle with a two foot tall toad. If they wanted to give Yoda a big part there at the end he should have just walked in and started shooting lightning out of his hands and remained calm in the nice, wise yoda way. They made Yoda look ridiculous.

In my opinion it would have been cool if Yoda had just stood calmly, leaning on his cane, while his using his force powers to cause his light sabre to fight Dooku on its own. It would have been more in line with what we know about him, and also shown that there's more to light sabre fighting than gymnastics.

Dibble Helix · 06-09-2003, 07:20 AM

Yes, interesting article.

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George Lucas said ...
I put the Force into the movie in order to try to awaken a certain kind of spirituality in young people

I'm not sure that blasting faceless stormtroopers with ray guns in an enviroment that appears to be free from moral consequences is entirely in keeping with this statement.

But hey what do I know!

ex-xian · 06-09-2003, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by Dibble Helix
I'm not sure that blasting faceless stormtroopers with ray guns in an enviroment that appears to be free from moral consequences is entirely in keeping with this statement.

Hmmm, storm troopers, empire, vader, dark side. anger, hate...rescuing a princess (a rather feminist princess, who rescues the rescuers), self-sacrifice for others, redemption for evil...yes, I can see how it's free of moral consequences.

Star Wars may not be high drama, but it's hardly free of morality.

Dibble Helix · 06-09-2003, 07:41 AM

[singing]

You say "tomato" and I say "tomato"
You say "it's moral" and I say "it's bollocks"
"Tomato", "tomato", "it's moral", "it's bollocks"
Let's call the whole thing orrrff!

[/singing]

ex-xian · 06-09-2003, 07:46 AM

[singing]
Ok, it's off!
[/singing]

not the catchiest tune, but I like it!

Dibble Helix · 06-09-2003, 08:01 AM

Off it is!

Radcliffe Emerson · 06-09-2003, 10:11 AM

Although I don't think the Stargate movie was terrible, I certainly agree the SG1 series far surpasses it. The movie was merely the stepping stone to introduce everything.
I'd say Babylon 5 is the true standard by which tv scifi should weigh itself.

fatherphil · 06-09-2003, 04:06 PM

gar, you'll have to come over some day and we'll pop in any episode and mecilessly tear it apart. it is easy enough to do. my family and i have great fun making sport of some of the sillier aspects of the story devices. it seems to have moved from innocent camp to full blown ego-mania as the episodes progress.

just goes to show you how writing has lagged behind technology through the years. i guess its a gift as opposed to a craft.

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06-09-2003, 07:41 AM	#44
Dibble Helix Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: UK Posts: 473	[singing] You say "tomato" and I say "tomato" You say "it's moral" and I say "it's bollocks" "Tomato", "tomato", "it's moral", "it's bollocks" Let's call the whole thing orrrff! [/singing]

06-09-2003, 07:46 AM	#45
ex-xian Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 4,679	[singing] Ok, it's off! [/singing] not the catchiest tune, but I like it!

06-09-2003, 08:01 AM	#46
Dibble Helix Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: UK Posts: 473	Off it is!

06-09-2003, 10:11 AM	#47
Radcliffe Emerson Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: the dark side of Mars Posts: 1,309	Although I don't think the Stargate movie was terrible, I certainly agree the SG1 series far surpasses it. The movie was merely the stepping stone to introduce everything. I'd say Babylon 5 is the true standard by which tv scifi should weigh itself.

06-09-2003, 04:06 PM	#48
fatherphil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: burbank Posts: 758	gar, you'll have to come over some day and we'll pop in any episode and mecilessly tear it apart. it is easy enough to do. my family and i have great fun making sport of some of the sillier aspects of the story devices. it seems to have moved from innocent camp to full blown ego-mania as the episodes progress. just goes to show you how writing has lagged behind technology through the years. i guess its a gift as opposed to a craft.

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