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lunatic.retired · 11-22-2002, 04:46 AM

Corgan Sow..."Since deconverting from Christianity a few months ago,"

Congratulations, ...enjoy your freedom!!

emur · 11-22-2002, 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by davidH:
The conquest of Canaan - many people just look at what the Israelites did in killing loads of people - but they fail to look at the people that the Israelites killed.
These people sacrificed their children to gods, sexually immoral - even their gods were worshipped by all this. And yet this was the land that way back, God promised to Israel - these people had plently of time to repent (prob around 600 years or more) and yet they got worse and worse. God's judgement on them was through Israel. That was Israel's land and they couldn't live along side these peoples and remain true to God (as you see in judges).

So remember that God is a God of love and forgiveness - but he will not sit idly by and watch sin getting worse and worse - he will judge.

David,
So the nursing infants had to die too? Wake up man, wake up!!! A loving God does not slaughter people, especially infants!

Those accounts of genocide were nothing more than political writings intended to show how Israel's God was more powerful and brutal than the Caananite's God.

Being that the leaders who ordered this slaughter did not actually hear the voice of God but only felt that this was what he was telling them, would you slaughter "the wicked" and their infants if you believed God told you to do it? You know, God is holy, and those sinners have gotten so bad...

No wonder there have been and are brutal, mean, intolerant Christians. They actually believe this stuff!

Mel

Scrambles · 11-22-2002, 08:22 AM

davidH,

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In Noah's time the people wouldn't listen and everything became so bad that God couldn't sit back and watch anymore. So he judged the world - wiping all out except the righteous.

Harsh? Extremely so - yet it was needed or mankind would have wiped itsself out.

Sounds like in southpark when Jimbo and that guy with the tracheotomy (spelling??) were "thinning out the numbers" of some deer.

"If we don't kill these deer...they'll die"

Nice one davidH.

Ronald Begg

Shadowy Man · 11-22-2002, 08:49 AM

davidH:

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About September 11th - The word punishment is not what I would use. The hijackers did it of their own free will - I believe that God has used the horror of it all as a wake-up call to people.

If the hijackers did it of their own free will, what does God have to do with it all? How did he use the situation, if they exercised their free will??

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Autonemesis · 11-22-2002, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Shadowy Man:
davidH:

If the hijackers did it of their own free will, what does God have to do with it all? How did he use the situation, if they exercised their free will??

Maybe God caused us all to feel horror and revulsion after the hijackers had done their deed. Without God, we may have shrugged it off and missed an opportunity to be woken up. We should perhaps thank God for making us feel horror and revulsion, so that we'd wake up and so that all those people would not have died in vain.

But I have a question: now that I am awake, what now?

Vesica · 11-22-2002, 11:25 AM

Corgan Sow - It's not just you however that is an amazingly sweeping generalization.

Kind bud -

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Yes, and many people avoid answering the question, just like you did.

Was your answer written in invisble text or what??

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Let's see, how has society deteriorated:

We have the highest literacy rate in history.
We have the lowest mortality rate in hisory.
We have the highest standard of living that any society has ever achieved.
We have conquered all the ancient diseases that used to plague humans.

While I agree with you in theory I have to wonder about that last one in particular.... 'conquered'?? Like how we have conquered TB? Or influenza?

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