GunnerJ

As a suggestion, how about the "meta-fallacy?" Not, of course, that I agree with you.

Corwin

Doesn't really fit.

Anybody speak latin better than I do?

Dr Rick

*sigh* <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

The benefits male circumcision confers should not be extrapolated to female circumcision. None of the studies posted relate to female circumcision. The American Academy of Pediatrics policy statement on male circumcision only applies to male circumcision. The HIV conference statements quoted on this thread concern only male circumcision.

Corwin

Yet the loss of sexual sensation in adulthood and the possibility of complications applies to both.

Morat

If female circumcision as practiced in other countries (and by this I'm referring to the common, slice-everything-off-that protudes type) is the same as male circumcision as practiced in America, then getting your tongue pierced is tantamount to being impaled on a stake.

Repeating obvious untruths and exagerations is also not a good argument, especially when a simply reading of this thread will show that you had your butt handed to you on the same topic.

To be the same as female circumcision, they'd have to lop everything off. AS I am circumcized, and I have a penis and testicles, and frankly enjoy sex a hell of a lot, it's obviously not the same.

tronvillain

Okay, I suggest that anyone who thinks they are the same read this thread over from the beginning.

tronvillain

Although lopping everything external off a male might be worse lopping everything external off a female.

Corwin

Of course the difference would be that the female analog of the testicles is inside the body and generally isn't what most people would consider a 'genital...'

And in many forms of cemale circ, the entire clitoris IS cut off.

Morat

So you've just acknowledged that they're not the same thing?

Lopping of the clit is tantamount to removing the whole penis, correct? Considering the most common form of female circumcision is exactly that?

This was dealt with on the very first page. And I believe you were involved.

Neanderthal

Even if you are against it, you allow it to happen unless you somehow prevent it from happening to anyone.

The law prohibiting female "circumcision" in this country is aimed squarely at ritual female "circumcision" practiced by Muslims. The law, if you actually read it, would not prohibit female circumcision akin to male circumcision if it is performed by an MD and done for medical reasons.

Although the anti circ crowd says otherwise (and not necessarily without some reason), routine male circumcision is considered a medical procedure. What should probably be compared in terms of the law are Jewish and Muslim male circumcision with Muslim female circumcision. Routine male circumcision performed by a doctor is in a different category than those performed for religious reasons by someone other than a doctor.

According to what I have read, adult females who have had a female circ which is the equivalent of male circ, say that sensitivity is increased, not decreased.

Betz

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