HelenM

Quite standard among Christians, though...

Worship of self means - more self-focus than Christians deem appropriate

thinking oneself a god - means, thinking more highly of oneself than Christians deem appropriate for a mere mortal who is sinful from birth and hell-bound unless he/she submits to God and receives salvation through Jesus Christ...

But not all Christians delight in denigrating 'self'...to be fair...some sure seem to delight in it, thought, as a way of 'giving glory to God' I suppose...although, how it is giving glory to Him to continually run down the crown of His creation, I'm not sure...

love
Helen

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Philosoft

Do you have anything to say that is not a completely erroneous generalization?

St. Robert

We were created to worship. What or who we choose to worship is up to us to decide freely. Jesus doesn't demand that anyone worship and honor him as God. He simply lays his life down and asks for us to follow. The decision you make concerning Jesus' claim to be the living God will determine your eternal destiny. I pray that you will choose wisely.

HelenM

It would be nice if you would respond to people who responded to you.

Is that too much to ask?

Otherwise you might as well just be some recording of what Christians say.

Didn't you realize these are discussion Forums...that means you are supposed to discuss topics here.

Is God like you, do you think? He just talks and doesn't seem to listen or respond if anyone picks up on what He says?

*sigh*

Are you human???

love
Helen

Gurdur

G.K. Chesterton is better.

Wizardry

Oh really...

Person: Hey, did you know that Star Wars is real?
Skeptic: What?
Person: Star Wars. The movies are actually documentaries of actual events that really happened. In fact, some of the footage used is authentic.
Skeptic: That’s asinine. Star Wars is a work of fiction authored by George Lucas. All the footage is fake. The ships are either models on wires or computer generated images. The characters are all actors. You can see them in other movies if you want.
Person: Aha! If you really believed that Star Wars was a work of fiction, you wouldn’t bother wasting your time debating it! That just proves that I’m right.

What have we learned?

No, they don’t believe in any gods. That’s what the word atheist means.

That’s not what the word “god” means. Do you worship some guy who happens to be self-reliant, or an all-powerful, non-corporeal creator of the universe? Choose carefully.

I claim to be an atheist. Do you I just did that? Does that make you a polytheist?

You think that the universe and its all-powerful creator has taken a personal interest in your well-being and eventually reward you for doing nothing more than believing that the all-powerful creator of the universe has taken a personal interest in your well-being and has taken special action to help you out.

I, on the other hand, believe that I am nothing more than a fortuitous result of evolutionary processes on a speck of dust in a very large universe that doesn’t care a wit whether or not I live forever or return to the void from which I came.

Who is it that has the exaggerated appraisal of self-worth?

What a remarkably unsupported assertion. You do realize that the number of people on this board who will accept this statement as a valid axiom to be used to derive true statements is somewhere near zero, making the rest of your post practically useless?

Mafia dons don’t demand that they be given money. They sell protection, and if you choose not to buy (which of course you are free to do), that’s fine. Of course, the world is a dangerous place and the decision not to buy protection might result in some unfortunate “consequences”.

What a bizarre system...

&lt;big booming voice from the sky&gt;

Hey humans, guess who. Yes, it is God. You guys are geniuses.

Ok, listen up. I’ve decided to rescue you all from the void of non-existance and allow you to experience eternal paradise with me in heaven. Sounds good, right. Small problem. I can’t let everybody in. So obviously I’m going to have to torture some of you, actually most of you, in unimaginable ways for an unbearable eternity.

Here’s how you get in:

Over the course of history, there are going to be a bunch of guys running around claiming to have spoken to me, claiming to have a copy of my latest book, or claiming to actually be me.

Your job is to pick the right one.

And... Go!
&lt;/big booming voice&gt;

We already have.

Peace out.

not a theist

This is getting old.
Every time we respond to the points you make, you drop them and make new ones without engaging our responses to your previous ones. Why do you do that? You should really address the issues that we've already brought up in response to your previous posts if you want to remain (or become) credible around here.

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tronvillain

Yes Robert, start responding or I start deleting your posts.

HelenM

Wow!!

I didn't know that was a rule around here. Respond or you get deleted.

Is that in the rules and policies of the board?

love
Helen

St. Robert

What would you like me to repond to first? Mostly, you've responded with statements and
rhetorical questions.

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