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Old 10-29-2002, 05:25 AM   #71
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I'm 100% sure that Christianity is a comforting fable.

Helen, in my experience, which I admit is not all-encompassing, doubts usually plague believers more often than un-believers. From what I hear, believers have to be constantly on their guard against evil, satanic thoughts that their faith may be nothing more than a mirage.

It's difficult to compare this to how atheists view the world. In my experience, most un-believers are more open to different possibilities and points of view, albeit more likely to ask for solid proof before they start to believe something.

So it doesn't do any good to talk to an atheist about what percentage are they sure that what they believe is true. It just doesn't matter that much.
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Hi Helen, nice thread you have going here. As for me, I'm 100% sure that your God isn't real and doesn't exist. This makes me sure, 100% sure, that your religion is a false religion built on old myths. Don't feel too bad though, that goes for all the Abrahamic religions, Judaism and Islam as well as Christianity. You're real however Helen, and a nice person too. Now if we're talking about "Bob," well that's a different story.

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Old 10-29-2002, 11:03 AM   #73
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As a matter of fact, I am having trouble finding time to respond to much on here.
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All right. Take your time. The thread will still be here (unless someone starts flaming, I suppose ).

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One brief comment on what you said, Perchance - someone 99% certain is convinced enough that I'd expect them to act in accordance with what they are 99% certain of, 100% of the time. I think that's the way humans are. They don't usually act in accordance with something they only think is 1% likely to be true...they go with their own majority vote, as it were.

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Something curious, then. If someone acts with "their own majority vote" 100% of the time, then what difference would it make to leave open a corner of 1% uncertainty about Christianity? I apologize in advance if I'm assuming, but it seems as if you favor people leaving open a corner of doubt about Christianity even if they live just like atheists.

Do you think that Christians should leave open a corner of doubt about God not existing? If not, why not?

There seems to be a double standard here. On the other hand, it could be a problem with my assumption. Please point this out to me if it is so.

-Perchance.
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Old 10-29-2002, 11:11 AM   #74
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Hi Helen,

Your question can be interpreted in many ways.
If you ask me whether there is any doubt in my mind that Christianity is false I would say no. There is no doubt. Here are a few things that I am 100% sure about.

I do not believe that the death of a man 2000 years ago saved humanity.

I do not believe that it was his blood which God wanted in order to do the trick.

I do not believe that man has failed a test and fallen into sin. That God promised a saviour etc.

I do not believe in any of the miracles, OT and NT.

I do not believe that Jesus resurrected not that any of us are going to resurrect.

I do not believe that Jesus will return.

I do not believe that any part of the Bible was inspired by God.

I do not believe that Yahweh exists.

So does that get me to 100% overall or 99%?

We can interpret you question in other ways which can give different results. Am I on the right track? Is this what you wanted to know?
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<strong>Something curious, then. If someone acts with "their own majority vote" 100% of the time, then what difference would it make to leave open a corner of 1% uncertainty about Christianity? I apologize in advance if I'm assuming, but it seems as if you favor people leaving open a corner of doubt about Christianity even if they live just like atheists.

Do you think that Christians should leave open a corner of doubt about God not existing? If not, why not?

There seems to be a double standard here. On the other hand, it could be a problem with my assumption. Please point this out to me if it is so.

-Perchance.</strong>
The context for my question was that I said - on another thread - something about "people here who are 100% certain Christianity is not true" and someone else responded said "Actually, most people here are 99%, not 100$ sure"

So I was curious to hear how people would respond to whether they are 99% or 100% sure.

I wasn't stating an opinion either way, about whether I think it's better to be 99% sure than 100% sure, although you seem to think I was. I was simply asking to see what people would say.

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Old 10-29-2002, 04:54 PM   #76
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The context for my question was that I said - on another thread - something about "people here who are 100% certain Christianity is not true" and someone else responded said "Actually, most people here are 99%, not 100$ sure"

So I was curious to hear how people would respond to whether they are 99% or 100% sure.

I wasn't stating an opinion either way, about whether I think it's better to be 99% sure than 100% sure, although you seem to think I was. I was simply asking to see what people would say.

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Okay. Taking a poll, then, in essence?

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Okay. Taking a poll, then, in essence?

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I guess so

But the comments are interesting, so I'm glad people haven't just responded with "99%" or "100%".

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"99%" or "100%"
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"Yes"

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Thanks, Sheep .

galiel, did you know that Abe already replied with "Yes"?

Thanks to the rest of you also, who've responded. I thought there would be some "100%"s out there but, I'd rather hear it from you than assume it's what you'd say. I hate it when people 'put words in my mouth', so I try not to do that to anyone else...

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