PopeInTheWoods

Well, 3=1 in mod 2 arithmetic....

Bill Snedden

I must have had some kind of impoverished life up until this point, but I've never heard anyone, much less atheists, attempt to defend 2=1. Could someone please let me in on this dirty little atheist secret?

Regards,

Bill Snedden

Bill Snedden

But we can often make "sense" of things we cannot experience, usually by analogy or some other descriptive form.

For example, we don't "experience" atoms (in the sense of actually touching them or seeing them individually in detail), but we can make sense of much of their function by studying the effects of their interactions and describing their apparent form through analogy (I'm sure we've all heard the orbits of electrons compared to those of planets). While these methods may not be exact, they certainly do serve the purpose.

So, is there perhaps a good analogy that one might use to assist non-believers in "making sense" of the Trinity?

Regards,

Bill Snedden

P.S. Could <a href="http://www.ccel.org/e/edwards/trinity/trinity.html" target="_blank">this</a> be the essay of which you were speaking?

Bill Snedden

Umm....God is a schizophrenic?

Say what you will, the hypothesis certainly has explanatory power...

Regards,

Bill Snedden

GunnerJ

In the Holy Name of Athe, most pure and beatiful of all goddesses...

You cannot know these mysteries until the appointed times. Right now, you are a tadpole so immersed in the Water (Goddess, Athe) that you cannot ackowledge Her existance. Soon you will be as a frog, to sup from Her Holy Waters, as a god would. Advance in the Order, and the false no-god postion of your infant atheism shall fade away, and the true nature of your Atheism shall fill you.

In the Name of Athe; oh Goddess, Thy ways are pure and just, Thy works are good and perfect... and Thine ass is sexy...

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Foxhole Atheist

“If I were going to deny God, I hope that I would at least take the time to make sure I understood what I was denying.”

Theophilus, I know full well what I’m denying. There are some, who in practicing their priest craft are telling me there exists a god who is divided into three parts, but is actually one.

Now, as far as the OT is concerned, are you trying to interpret the trinity into it? I believe the Hebrews would have something to say about that.

“The Trinity cannot be experienced, so cannot be made "sense" of.” Now, you’ve said something we can both agree upon.

Amos

Thanks Bill, but that only works because it is true. Hardy wrote a poem on that in which he compared the human pride with the Titanic and the iceberg with the Immanent Will (lovely imagery). When they collided the "two hemispheres jarred." The poem is called "The Convergeance of the Twain: Lines on the Titanic."

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Amos

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Tani

bertrand russell did play around the notion with the statement 2+2=5 which has some resemblance to this question. he said basically:

2+2 = 5
then 4 = 5
then 4-3 = 5-3
then 1 = 2

although the pope and bertrand russell are 2 persons, bertrand russell is also the pope.

the point russell was trying to make was, coincidentally, how anything can be proven with a contradiction as premise.

Grizzly

FarSeeker,

I would love to answer the question above. Unfortunately I do not understand the statement that most atheists believe 2=1. You have also painted a broad stroke in characterizing atheists and their positions on knowledge. To say that atheist "don't allow themselves to understand that there are things that do exist... that are beyond our complete understanding" is a straw man. I'm sure there are many atheists here who would admit that there are many gaps in our knowledge about the physical world.

So, please, enlighten me. Why do I believe that 2=1?