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Pomp · 05-25-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Jesse
I thought there was supposed to be a big time gap in the movie from when he was wearing the cheap home-made outfit for wrestling and when he was an actual superhero living in an apartment with Norman Osborne's kid (didn't he graduate from high school in between?)

Yeah, there was supposed to be a big gap in there. At least from the end of his senior year at high school until into his freshman year at college, and I thought the sequence with the multiple newspaper headlines was supposed to show time passing as well.

Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ · 05-25-2003, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Jimmy Higgins
My problem was that Spiderman went from being normal geek to superhero in a day. I was under the impression that it took a bit longer, I thought he boxed, and for a while, too not wrestled. "With great power comes great responsibility." Yeah, overnight? I think they condensed way too much and then ending? All of a sudden all of New York is on the bridge backing Spiderman, who for some reason didn't like him before? And the MJ falls in love with the guy for no reason. There was absolutely no cohesion with any scenes in the movie. Its almost like they were asking, you know that previous scene? Forget about it.

Day 1: Normal
Day 2: Weird, wrestles Machoman Randy Savage, wins, uncle dies because of his extremely brief indifference, decides to become superhero.
Day 3: Saves city
Day 4: City hates him
Day 5: City loves him and throughs vegatables at William DeFoe.

But as I see Day Two, Xmen doesn't have Rogue or Pyro or Iceman just going out and being superheroes after learning of their powers. They need to learn about them first. Spiderman is flying through the buildings once he learns he has webs. I mean, come on. I know its a comic book, but a little reality would be nice.

The based the movie off of the Ultimate line of comic books--basically, a new beginning for all of the characters, plotlines, etc. This is more or less what happened in the comic book.

tronvillain · 05-25-2003, 04:55 PM

While X2 was pretty good, I judge Spider-Man by different standards. My only real complaint about the movie is that the Green Goblin's helmet makes acting virtually impossible, which was a huge mistake (they should have gone with the traditional mask thing). Oh, and it was always wrestling, never boxing.

Ultimate Spider-Man is a pretty good comic, but its Norman Osbourne becomes a large Green Goblin monster rather than wearing a costume, which was a little odd.

Monkeybot · 05-25-2003, 05:36 PM

I remember really liking Spider-Man when I went to go see it in the theaters last, um... June? But I hate to say it, re-watching it on HBO this past week, I noticed a lot more flaws. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy watching it -- and I think Tobey Maguire was very well cast and did a great job -- it just doesn't hold up as well on repeat viewings.

Maybe it's similar to the problems with the first X-Men movie; TPTB and the director were probably nervous about adapting this comic to the big screen for the first time, and (wisely) chose to play it safe. However, I think Singer and the cast really loosened up in X2 after the first X-Men movie was such a success. Maybe similarly, a Spider-Man sequel will be a little looser, a little more comfortable than the original.

Monkeybot · 05-25-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by tronvillain
My only real complaint about the movie is that the Green Goblin's helmet makes acting virtually impossible, which was a huge mistake (they should have gone with the traditional mask thing).

I agree completely. There was one monologue the Green Goblin gives to Spider-Man with his helmet still on. I couldn't stop laughing because even though Willem Dafoe was doing his damndest, the expression on the mask was still this, like, insane gaping smile.

Walross · 05-25-2003, 06:00 PM

Yeah, the GG mask reminded me of a bad Power Rangers villain.

Jimmy Higgins · 05-25-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Jesse
I thought there was supposed to be a big time gap in the movie from when he was wearing the cheap home-made outfit for wrestling and when he was an actual superhero living in an apartment with Norman Osborne's kid (didn't he graduate from high school in between?)

I thought the sequences were too fast. I didn't think they spanned time well enough. Of course, thats my opinion, but I've never been wrong in my life.

There was never any showing how he was doing anything else. It just failed for me on one hundred fronts.

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05-25-2003, 04:55 PM	#13
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	While X2 was pretty good, I judge Spider-Man by different standards. My only real complaint about the movie is that the Green Goblin's helmet makes acting virtually impossible, which was a huge mistake (they should have gone with the traditional mask thing). Oh, and it was always wrestling, never boxing. Ultimate Spider-Man is a pretty good comic, but its Norman Osbourne becomes a large Green Goblin monster rather than wearing a costume, which was a little odd.

05-25-2003, 05:36 PM	#14
Monkeybot Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,102	I remember really liking Spider-Man when I went to go see it in the theaters last, um... June? But I hate to say it, re-watching it on HBO this past week, I noticed a lot more flaws. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy watching it -- and I think Tobey Maguire was very well cast and did a great job -- it just doesn't hold up as well on repeat viewings. Maybe it's similar to the problems with the first X-Men movie; TPTB and the director were probably nervous about adapting this comic to the big screen for the first time, and (wisely) chose to play it safe. However, I think Singer and the cast really loosened up in X2 after the first X-Men movie was such a success. Maybe similarly, a Spider-Man sequel will be a little looser, a little more comfortable than the original.

05-25-2003, 06:00 PM	#16
Walross Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,569	Yeah, the GG mask reminded me of a bad Power Rangers villain.

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