Karzak the Holy

What did the big bang evolve from?

Theophage

*sigh*

The "Big Bang" is an event, it is not a thing which "evolves". Biological evolution is just that --biological-- meaning it has to do with living things. The universe is not a living thing.

Now, if we re-cast this question in a more sensible light:

"Where did the universe come from?"

I would answer:

"It didn't 'come from' anywhere; there was never a point in time when the universe did not exist."

Note that this is not the same as saying the universe has existed forever, but I'm afraid that discussion is a little too far out of your reach...

Daniel "Theophage" Clark

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Karzak the Holy

well, that is a nice speculation, but somewhat pointless, as it sidesteps the question of the origon of the universe.

It is not a particularly good rephrasing of my original question.

Nor did I limit myself to biological evolution.

I had hoped to find deeper thinkers here. Anyone else?

YodaTuna

He did not sidestep your question. Read it closely. Also, what other kind of evolution(in scientific terms) is there?

Writer@Large

It was your original phrasing that was not a particularly good one. Evolution has nothing to do with the Big Bang, as already stated above.

<img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

Do you even know what evolution is?

--W@L

Karzak the Holy

Huh?

Main Entry: evo.lu.tion
Pronunciation: "e-v&-'l�-sh&n, "E-v&-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin evolution-, evolutio unrolling, from evolvere
Date: 1622
1 : one of a set of prescribed movements
2 a : a process of change in a certain direction : UNFOLDING b : the action or an instance of forming and giving something off : EMISSION c (1) : a process of continuous change from a lower, simpler, or worse to a higher, more complex, or better state


putting additional qualifiers in, like biological or scientific is sidestepping.

Did time exist before the big bang? Maybe, maybe not, but claiming that it did not as fact, and stating that I wsas discussing only biological evelution, then claiming this "discussion is a little too far out of your reach..."

Really, I expected better here than a simple minded response far mor limited than my question and a childish dismissal.

Karzak the Holy

better than others it seems.

What is the problem with my original phrasing? What part confuses you?

And why do you think evolution is limited to biology only?

Kaina

Another poorly-worded attempt at the "First Cause" argument? Please tell us, what did your god evolve from?

Kaina

To answer the question in your title, rather than your first post, life from non-life is described by abiogenesis not evolution. Evolution only describes processes that occur after we have the first self-replicating molecules. For an intro to abiogenesis try the talk origins archive <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-abiogenesis.html" target="_blank">here</a>

Karzak the Holy

What part of my wording confuses you? Maybe I can explain it so as not to confuse you, although wording simpler than "What did the big bang evolve from?" eludes me, and adding complexity to the concept seems pointless if you cannot understand it as is.

Sigh.