everlastingtongue

I have never been able to understand gay republicans. How can one be a member of a political party that seeks to deny basic rights: marriage, sex, equal opportunity to a percentage of the population when you also fall in that percentage?

It seems to me almost on the level of a non-white person wanting to join the KKK.

atheist_in_foxhole

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Can the GOP Senate elect even ONE non-Bigot as leader?!

No. The base of the Republican party is made up of right-wing fundamentalist bigots and as a result it would be rather difficult for a non-bigot to get elected to the leadership.

Melkor

Not sure. Could you expand on that a bit?

Soyin Milka

Hm.
Change from the inside maybe?
I know a guy who became a catholic priest. His reasoning is that as long as only men who agree unconditionnaly with the positions of the church on social and other issues (abortion, contraception, role of women, celibacy..), the church is unlikely to change. By joining it, he thinks he can trigger change from the inside by making the church more receptive to ideas from outside.

*shrugs*

He's an unconventional priest and quite a flirt. His motto in french is: "Pr�tre pas pr�tre, j'y vais". It's a word play that loses much of its punch once translated in english. Just know that in french, "Ready or not, here I go" and "Priest or not, here I go" sound a lot alike

Soyin

Loren Pechtel

While there are a few moderate Republicans out there they don't have a snowball's of becoming a party leader. There's simply too many fundies.

Majestyk

The "change from inside notion" is valid. Then there may be other issues that they feel stronger about are represented in the GOP. It could be that they remeber it as the party of Goldwater and not Falwell..

Randi

John Kyle and John McCain are our senators from Arizona. You know, now that I think about it, they are very rarely in the local news, unless they are having a medical procedure done, or they want to tout a popular law they voted for. Otherwise, they lay so low you wouldn't know we had senators. They keep getting re-elected by name recognition and the feel-good news they premit our local news to show.

smugg

Outside governmental authority? Incest? Just waiting to pork your mom?

Incest laws are there to protect children who cannot make informed decisions about sex and therefore cannot give consent. How can you defend incest?

Jat

The type of incest they were comparing it to was between consenting adults. It is still wrong, though, on genetic grounds.

Alonzo Fyfe

You know, people used to make the same argument about the legitimacy of outlawing interracial relationships.

"The state has the right to prevent immorality, even in the bedroom. Give up the right to prevent interracial breeding, then anything becomes permissible."