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RawData · 05-31-2003, 03:19 PM

If anything Terrifies me, it is this kind of bullshit.

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WEST POINT, N.Y. (Reuters) - The United States will not pursue deterrence or containment policies in its so-called war on terrorism but would instead seek to utterly destroy its enemies, Vice President Dick Cheney said on Saturday.
In a speech to the 2003 graduating class of the U.S. Military Academy, Cheney also warned that the United States remained willing to use its military might against any nation supporting terrorists.
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"With such an enemy, no peace treaty is possible, no policy of containment or deterrent will prove effective -- the only way to deal with this threat is to destroy it completely and utterly, and President Bush is absolutely determined to do just that."

from http://news.lycos.com/news/story.asp...storyId=736550

Have they even wondered WHY so many want to kill Americans?

What do you all think?

RawData

Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ · 05-31-2003, 10:23 PM

So, what, we're invading Israel next? And then we'll be invading the US? Jesus! He's a fucking nutcase, that one!

Chained_Runner · 06-01-2003, 10:39 AM

You have got to be kiddin me!

Great, as long as he has power, we'll be taking over the world soon. Yeah! [end sarcasm]

Doesn't anybody eles see the hipocriosy (sp?) of it all? :boohoo:

Jat · 06-01-2003, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Chained_Runner
You have got to be kiddin me! Great, as long as he has power, we'll be taking over the world soon. Yeah! [end sarcasm]

Doesn't anybody eles see the hipocriosy (sp?) of it all? :boohoo:

Of course. That goes without saying.

hypocrisy

Evangelion · 06-01-2003, 11:56 AM

I live in Australia.

RawData · 06-03-2003, 08:54 AM

Fortunately, Australia was one of the "Coalition of the Willing", so they are probably safe for now... But don't get on Bushes bad side!

Phrase that needs to be banned: "Weapons of Mass Destruction"
(especially the Bush slurred pronunciation <-- sp)

RawData

Hubble head · 06-03-2003, 04:17 PM

Considering certain realities about these rabid psychotics who want to harm us, whether we deserved their hate in some way or not, I'd have to say he is right.

It's quite apparent a rather dedicated force of non governed people are out to do us harm or die trying. If they are sponsored by people in our own Govt or the Saudi Royal family remains to be seen but no matter who helps them out its obvious they want us dead and will partner with anyone to get it done.

Do you think a new president will make them go away? Something tells me that won't stop them either.

Whether US corporate driven foreign policy started this problem or crazy islamic imans stirred it up I don't think it will stop until one side is no longer able to bleed.

How that is to be done is a much bigger and more debatable question but I want these asshole psycho religious fanatics to leave this planet one way or another ASAP. GD right wing terrorists like Eric Rudolf included.

The only thing worth dying for is freedom.
(can't remember whose quote that is from)

yelyos · 06-03-2003, 04:28 PM

Name a terrorist attack that has occured against US civilians since Sept 11, 2001.

If the money for a war in Iraq was put into something else, say medicine or food, it could save millions of lives.

Not only that, but people who are grateful to the US are much, much less likely to sponsor terrorists.

Hubble head · 06-03-2003, 04:49 PM

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Name a terrorist attack that has occured against US civilians since Sept 11, 2001.

Some might argue the sniper was a terrorist. Other than that, there have been several attacks against Americans, just not on this soil.

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If the money for a war in Iraq was put into something else, say medicine or food, it could save millions of lives.

But I wasn't for Iraq's latest invasion.

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Not only that, but people who are grateful to the US are much, much less likely to sponsor terrorists.

Absolutely. But what is done is done and while we can tallk about all the bad decisions made by short sighted politicians, these particular SOB's want us and all Israeli's dead.

Until we get rid of them nothing we do in the ME will seem genuine to anyone from there.

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05-31-2003, 10:23 PM	#2
Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Heaven Posts: 6,980	So, what, we're invading Israel next? And then we'll be invading the US? Jesus! He's a fucking nutcase, that one!

06-01-2003, 10:39 AM	#3
Chained_Runner Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dandy-land, USA Posts: 21	You have got to be kiddin me! Great, as long as he has power, we'll be taking over the world soon. Yeah! [end sarcasm] Doesn't anybody eles see the hipocriosy (sp?) of it all? :boohoo:

06-01-2003, 11:56 AM	#5
Evangelion Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Walsall, UK Posts: 1,490	I live in Australia.

06-03-2003, 08:54 AM	#6
RawData Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Puget Sound, WA, US Posts: 1,022	Fortunately, Australia was one of the "Coalition of the Willing", so they are probably safe for now... But don't get on Bushes bad side! Phrase that needs to be banned: "Weapons of Mass Destruction" (especially the Bush slurred pronunciation <-- sp) RawData

06-03-2003, 04:17 PM	#7
Hubble head Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Corn rows Posts: 4,570	Considering certain realities about these rabid psychotics who want to harm us, whether we deserved their hate in some way or not, I'd have to say he is right. It's quite apparent a rather dedicated force of non governed people are out to do us harm or die trying. If they are sponsored by people in our own Govt or the Saudi Royal family remains to be seen but no matter who helps them out its obvious they want us dead and will partner with anyone to get it done. Do you think a new president will make them go away? Something tells me that won't stop them either. Whether US corporate driven foreign policy started this problem or crazy islamic imans stirred it up I don't think it will stop until one side is no longer able to bleed. How that is to be done is a much bigger and more debatable question but I want these asshole psycho religious fanatics to leave this planet one way or another ASAP. GD right wing terrorists like Eric Rudolf included. The only thing worth dying for is freedom. (can't remember whose quote that is from)

06-03-2003, 04:28 PM	#8
yelyos Regular Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: northern suburbs of Toronto, Canada Posts: 401	Name a terrorist attack that has occured against US civilians since Sept 11, 2001. If the money for a war in Iraq was put into something else, say medicine or food, it could save millions of lives. Not only that, but people who are grateful to the US are much, much less likely to sponsor terrorists.

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