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Easy Be · 04-10-2003, 12:42 PM

Hannity and Fox News are reporting this find.

"Smoking Gun"

Quote:

"It's amazing," Chief Warrant Officer Darrin Flick, the battalion's nuclear, biological and chemical warfare specialist told the newspaper. "I went to the off-site storage buildings, and the rad detector went off the charts. Then I opened the steel door, and there were all these drums, many, many drums, of highly radioactive material."

and then the article says

Quote:

This underground discovery could still test to be perfectly legitimate and offer no proof of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. The CIA encouraged international inspectors in the fall of 2002 to probe Al Tuwaitha for weapons of mass destruction, and the inspectors came away empty-handed.

What else can set off a gieger counter besides illegal substances?

I would guess this is just more propaganda, but I think it's still interesting.

yaktldg · 04-10-2003, 01:03 PM

Quote:

"The Marines should be particularly careful because of those high readings," he told the paper. "Three hours at levels like that and people begin to vomit. That leads me to wonder, if the readings are accurate, whether radioactive material was deliberately left there to expose people to dangerous levels.

"You couldn't do scientific work in levels like that. You would die."

We'll have to wait and see.

Mr. Superbad · 04-10-2003, 01:08 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see radiation levels at a nuclear development site that we've bombed a few times and has known quantities of radioactive material inside.

Quote:

A nuclear team went to Al Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center about 10 kilometers (6 miles) south of Baghdad. Several tons of uranium have been under seal at Al Tuwaitha since the previous round of inspections ended in 1998.

- source

Quote:

Last Wednesday, in their first visit to al-Tuwaitha in the two-week-old new round of U.N. inspections, specialists of the International Atomic Energy Agency spent five hours going "room to room," team leader Jacques Baute reported afterward. But they needed more time to complete their inspection of the complex of more than 100 buildings, he said.

- source

enemigo · 04-10-2003, 01:12 PM

Fox is also reporting a possible mobile bio/chem weapons lab has been found:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83840,00.html

richard

Mr. Superbad · 04-10-2003, 01:18 PM

All the "may have's" and "possibly's" are driving me nuts. Is fox incapable of confirming anything?

Easy Be · 04-10-2003, 01:36 PM

Would industrial grade uniranium be a weapons agreement violation? Is this something that the weapon inspectors could have known about?

matthias j. · 04-10-2003, 01:39 PM

And why haven't satellites picked this up?

Easy Be · 04-10-2003, 01:42 PM

mathias j.

If you would have read the article you would have noticed that it's an underground facility.

matthias j. · 04-10-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Easy Be
If you would have read the article you would have noticed that it's an underground facility.

I did read the article, but sincesome satellites are used to search for (low grade) natural uranium resources that are often burried under several hundreds of meters solid rock I asumed a silly concrete bunker wouldn't be an effective means of covering things up.

Mr. Superbad · 04-10-2003, 01:55 PM

This is how Fox News works.

Pesticides = Chemical weapons!
White Explosives Powder = Anthrax!
Radioactivity = Weapons Grade Plutonium!
Anything launched at US forces = SCUD attack!
Abandoned facilities = Hidden bio-weapons laboratory!

Then they add the obligatory "UN weapons inspectors are a bunch of incompetent boobs!" comment in the article.

Then they retract the story after everyone's gone to bed.

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04-10-2003, 01:12 PM	#4
enemigo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: atlanta, ga Posts: 691	Fox is also reporting a possible mobile bio/chem weapons lab has been found: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83840,00.html richard

04-10-2003, 01:18 PM	#5
Mr. Superbad Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Well fortified mountain bunker Posts: 3,567	All the "may have's" and "possibly's" are driving me nuts. Is fox incapable of confirming anything?

04-10-2003, 01:36 PM	#6
Easy Be Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Fargo, North Dakota Posts: 63	Would industrial grade uniranium be a weapons agreement violation? Is this something that the weapon inspectors could have known about?

04-10-2003, 01:39 PM	#7
matthias j. Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Belgium/Ghent Posts: 191	And why haven't satellites picked this up?

04-10-2003, 01:42 PM	#8
Easy Be Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Fargo, North Dakota Posts: 63	mathias j. If you would have read the article you would have noticed that it's an underground facility.

04-10-2003, 01:55 PM	#10
Mr. Superbad Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Well fortified mountain bunker Posts: 3,567	This is how Fox News works. Pesticides = Chemical weapons! White Explosives Powder = Anthrax! Radioactivity = Weapons Grade Plutonium! Anything launched at US forces = SCUD attack! Abandoned facilities = Hidden bio-weapons laboratory! Then they add the obligatory "UN weapons inspectors are a bunch of incompetent boobs!" comment in the article. Then they retract the story after everyone's gone to bed.

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