Arikay

Yep Key, definatly seems like redirection.

Congrats Daniel, Im Ari.

A suggestion here, ask a stupid question, and you might get a few jabs but you will get some great answers.
Make a stupid statement, and you should expect to get nailed for it.

Anyway, back to redirection, it a common thing used by creationists and many are very aware of it here. It almost never works well in a text debate, although in a Oral debate like thing, im sure it can be used quite effectivly. Redirection and dodging are used by politicians all the time.

Theres no answer like a non answer.

Daniel Erickson

"Yep Key, definatly seems like redirection."

Arikay, can you tell me something ? Why does everyone, but everyone, misspell the word "definitely" ? I have seen it spelled "definately" at least 10,000 times on message boards. This seems to be the standard rule -- misspell the word "definitely" as "definately". Maybe I am just prejudiced, since I nearly got a perfect 800 on my Verbal SATs, but I getting very sick of seeing "definately". DEFINITELY !

If you are tempted to post an angry reply to this, Arikay, that's fine. I have been insulted by better people than you. But PLEASE USE A SPELL CHECKER !!!! (It was Kuu, not Key, by the way).

Daniel Erickson

Everyone on the evolution forum seems to use a made-up name like Kuu, Arikary, and gravitybow. Am I the only one with the guts to use his real name here ? Relax !! William Jennings Bryant has been dead for a long time. He isn't going to come to your house and beat you up.

Daniel Erickson

For the benefit of the cognitively impaired...

In 1925 William Jennings Bryan (not Bryant) faced off in the courtroom against Clarence Darrow in the famous 'Scopes Trial,' held in Dayton, Tennessee. The trial tested whether evolution could be taught in schools, and Bryan represented the views of creationists who supported a literal interpretation of the Biblical creation story. Though Bryan won, the conviction of John Scopes--a Tennessee teacher who had purposely broken the law--was later overturned. Bryan died a week after the trial, still a controversial figure, but now seen as a religious conservative rather than an economic radical.

Kevin

So, Daniel, are you even going to address the previous substantive posts, or dance around them and make other people the issue? So far you've:

1) Come in asserting that evolutionary biology was incapable of addressing topics which it is fully capable of addressing and does, in fact, explain.

2) Ignored the substantive posts made refuting your initial claims and

3) Made other chatters, only peripherally involved in this conversation, the central issue and harped on typos.

If previous experience is any guide, you're on the fast track to a forensic crash and burn, followed by a victory dance only slightly hampered by the fact that your fingers will be stuck firmly in your ears, concluded by a vanishing act.

P.S. Kevin is my real name.

P.P.S. Don't worry about responding to this post, respond to RufusAtticus, Minnesota, GravityBow, and Dr. Rick instead and in full.

missus_gumby

Daniel, I am interested in whether you have formed any opinions with regard to the scholarly evidence, facts, and educated guesses provided for your edification in this thread so far? Do you consider your three points to have been adequately addressed, or is your mind unchanged?

Oh, I almost forgot:

I too feel that something in your first sentence is not quite right. It automatically assumes that the "theistic argument from design" is the default. This is incorrect, surely the theory with the most facts must be the default? Where are the facts concerning your three points above with regard to the "theistic argument from design"? I'm sure we are all looking forward to the masses of factual evidence you are itching to provide.

Martin

Duvenoy

Erm, so what? What does someone's handle have to do with the verasity (did I spell that right? I never took an SAT) of his / her writings? Usually, someone's handle will have some meaning to it's owner. One of us here uses the genera name for a vulture, for example. Often, it's so escoteric that no one else'll get it.

Loosen up, Danny. Life'll be a lot more fun.

Getting back to topic, here's a symbiotic relationship that'll boggle ya:

There is an abysmal angler fish that the male attaches himself permently to the much larger female and lives as a paracite, producing sperm upon demand. A Google on anglerfish should get some info on it -- I'm too lazy to do it this morning. So, how did the male come to such an estate? If God did it, He was on some serious drugs, drugs that deities should avoid unless prescribed by a physician. Or perhaps this strange arrangment evolved over time as an excellent breeding stratagy. Or, maybe the males simply discovered that the females tasted good (my personal favorite, aithough the second option is the best).

doov

keyser_soze

"And verily, the ad hominems will flow like wine!"


As noted, your arguments started out immediately flawed, and corrections were given to you. You then attempted to redirect away from your floundering arguments by attacking the use of net names(and don't bother with mine, a simple search of the forums will get you my name, as well as my address if you are so inclined). And that little jab at him "been attacked by better men than you"....you are quite the arrogant little fallacious arguer are you not? You lose credibility with every additional post. Try to exhibit a little cognitive ability, and a LOT more manners, and you'll find the environment more friendly. We do not tolerate over inflated ego-manical arrogance well. Also, the whole misdirection by spelling thing....hint...it doesn't work. Now, as advised, please attend to the points laid out for you. Do try to stay on topic.

You would also do well to not brag about your sat scores, you'll find that you are far outstripped by a number of people on the boards...btw, you seem quite young...how old are you exactly? Just for my edification...

Arikay

Because I definatly dont use a spell checker for posts like this.
Because you definatly havent addressed any thing and are just stalling it seems.

So I ask you this, how come you cant do a "spell check" and spell my name right? "Arikary"
How about, How come people using fake names can get around to the point quicker than you?

Congrats on that verbal SAT score. Did it help you any?

"I have been insulted by better people than you."
Congrats, but then again, how do you know me?

Your funny though, maybe we should start taking bets on how long this can go, how many people you can slowly insult, or how many useless ego boosting facts you will throw at us?

Anyone want to start the betting?

Joe Meert

JM: Yes, biomagnetic effects are so cool. They've been observed in bacteria and monarch butterflies as well.

Cheers

Joe Meert