Sojourner553

I agree Michael:
The religious person kills for the glory of God and belief in a new life after death!

An atheist person has to be depressed and want to kill him/herself anyway - -as there is no belief in a future life to spur him/her on.


The suicide note left behind by Eric speaks of his rage from being treated as socially inferior by his classmates as the cause. He was willing to kill himself – probably because he hated himself – he blamed his classmates for his self-loathing, so he was going to take them with him.
Here are main points from his suicide note:
“How could this happen?" It read: "By now, it's over. If you are reading this, my mission is complete....Your children who have ridiculed me, who have chosen not to accept me, who have treated me like I am not worth their time are dead. ….Surely you will try to blame it on the clothes I wear, the music I listen to, or the way I choose to present myself, but no. Do not hide behind my choices. You need to face the fact that this comes as a result of YOUR CHOICES. Parents and teachers, you f---ed up. You have taught these kids to not [sic] accept what is different. YOU ARE IN THE WRONG. I have taken their lives and my own--but it was your doing. Teachers, parents, LET THIS MASSACRE BE ON YOUR SHOULDERS UNTIL THE DAY YOU DIE."

Regarding Larry Ashbrook (who went on a killing rampage in a Ft Worth, Tx Baptist church): He had severe mental problems, his father had just died, he had no job, and he was about to loose all the support his father provided, including a place to live.

Sounded like a Baptist came up to him and said something which he took as hypocritical and syrupy and he went off the deep end. He was a mental case though like Andrea Yates and probably would have committed suicide if the Baptist had not crossed him.

I have a theory, this guy known to have severe mental problems (now including terrible depression) would have done they same thing to anyone who came up to him and said in that empty-minded syrupy way, "have a nice day".

It would be more relevent to ask, where was God's protective shield?

Sojourner

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Romza Dza Bza

Not to repeat what others may have said, but wasn't it possible before they became an atheist? A person who does the right thing because they want God to judge them well is less "moral" than a person who does the right thing because it's the right thing. I believe in God, and I believe that God decided what his law should be because his law works, not because he wants to see how well you'll adhere to it. But since it works, it works independently of belief in God.

If you contracted with your wife to be faithful, then you are morally bound to be faithful to her. Even beyond that, the risk of hurting someone outweighs other considerations. God need have nothing to do with it.

Sojourner553

Finally a good Christian post! We don't agree on all the details; but that's ok!


Sojourner

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