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Old 04-24-2002, 04:27 PM   #11
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<strong>I don't understand how everyone on this site can be so sure about things all the time, when new studies bring about new information that changes so many so-called facts. </strong>
Wow, you guys, I just had an epiphany:

Thanatos doesn't even have the foggiest notion of what is science.
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Old 04-24-2002, 04:46 PM   #12
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DA Scott Gives out the Darwin Award to Thanatos.

Pffft! Sorry, nothing important to add.

Except, I just heard one of my favorite lines from the Simpons, "In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" This after Lisa invented a perpetual motion machine when the teachers were on strike.

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This news release appears to back up some recent stuff I've seen on mammal relationships from DNA studies: primates, tree shrews, and flying lemurs are pretty close relatives, and diverged from the line that led to hoofed animals/whales/carnivore/bats. That hodgepodge would have needed a fair stretch of time to diversify itself. Cool.
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I don't understand how everyone on this site can be so sure about things all the time
Which things did you have in mind? Common descent? Or details of the timing of branchings of that common decent family tree?

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when new studies bring about new information that changes so many so-called facts
Please tell us where any scientist has stated the primate family tree branchings which were previously considered correct were facts.

See <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=000671" target="_blank">this thread</a> for the abstract of the original source article yours refers to.

Look, Thanatocephalos, what we had before was two ways of gathering information about the world that didn’t seem to fit with each other. If the world actually is one particular, ‘true’ way, then there should be a way of fitting the ideas to the facts (not the other way round, as with creationism). Lo and behold, here’s an example of precisely this coming together of the lines of evidence.

Please explain how this is in any way evidence against evolution, or anything we’ve previously told you.

I love the way creationists will tell us that scientists can’t agree on something (in this case, it’d be the geneticists and the palaeontologists), so you can’t trust their claims, and then when more evidence brings the two lines together, the facts have been overturned... I wonder, Thanatos, whether you consider quantum mechanics and relativity to be wrong, since they make in principle irreconcilable claims? <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

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Hey Rufus, that was a touch of genius! <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

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Rufus, sheer genius. I am guessing that Det. Hovind's call sign would be 1-Adam-12?
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Umm, Thanatos, where did you go? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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