Richard1366

The good news is that there is life after death, and I can prove it. I've been working on my family tree for a few years now, (it's a neverending task, I've found out) and have been building the family tree from both sides, i.e. both from my mother and my fathers. When I sit back and look at it, I realize that all of my direct ancestors are still alive, in me. I have passed them, as well as myself, on to my children and to my grandchildren and to all of my future generations.

I'm just a single piece in the ongoing process, and it's really easy to accept that. It's incredible to realize that if only one of my direct ancestors had died prematurely that I would never have existed. All of my ancestors are physically dead and buried now, but are they really? I'm living proof that they are not, even if I have never met most, andonly know the names of some of the rest of them.

openeyes

From Carrie:I think you'd have a hard time finding people who study consciousness to support that statement. We're not even conscious all the time when our brains are working.

Carrie

Voker: You’re right. Saying that “no one can know” is claiming that I do know that. So, maybe we can’t know whether we can really know. If that makes sense. Damn philosophy! Who knows what we can know? Maybe we really can know the truth? Oi, so confusing!

Maggus: What if I said, “Well okay then, Jesus is the Son of God,” and I just believe that, without having any good reason to believe it, would I then be saved?

Richard: That’s an interesting point.

Open eyes: I’ll look into it.

Emotional: Maybe you’ve tried this already, but I think you should get on medication. I have friends who have had mental issues, and it took them some time to find just the right
medication (like over a year). But once they finally did, they felt soooo much better. It’s really a process of trial and error. You and a psychiatrist would have to work together on finding the right medication and therapy for quite some time. But eventually it could be worth it. Also, if you don’t like the therapy you’re getting, tell them, and move on to a different doctor. I had one doctor tell me that I don’t have Attention Deficit Disorder, when other doctor’s told me that I do. I stopped going to the doctor who told me I don’t have it, because he obviously doesn’t understand me. I know I have it. He just didn’t have the same understanding as me, and ADD was not his specialty. So you have to see doctors who specialize in your area of concern.

Magus55

Well you have to be sincere about it, you can't just call out his name and expect to be saved. You have to admit to him you're a sinner, ask his forgiveness. Confess your belief and faith in him, that He died on the cross for your sins and was ressurected 3 days later. And ask him to come into your life and make you live for Him.

If you're sincere about it and really do care about Him and what he did for you, your life then revolves around Him. You get disgusted by sin and hate doing it, you pray alot, read the Bible, witness, etc., devote your life to Him.

Magus55

We want to go there to be eternally happy with God. We don't sit on chairs all eternity long doing nothing but singing. Heaven will be fun, enjoyable, fulfilling, and satisfying.

God doesn't torture you, you torture youself. You just said in the above quote why would you ever want to be Heaven? You don't want to be Heaven, which means you choose Hell. There is no inbetween. You live for God, or you die for Satan - take your pick.

QoS, God is omnipotent. Hell is an unquenchable fire, and it needs no fuel. Remember Exodus and the burning Bush? God become a flame that engulfed the bush but didn't destroy it. I'm pretty sure God ressurects all bodies at the Great White Throne Judgement, however, Hell bound souls won't get perfect bodies, they may remain corrupted. I have no clue. Either way, you will feel pain and torment both physically and mentally, whether you have a body or not. Evil will haunt you for all eternity. And you will be plagued by constant remindings that you rejected God's gift and put yourself there. Being Separated from God is the worst thing imaginable to most people, yet you like the idea and you don't think you belong in Hell?

Anything's possible.

Demigawd

...start threads in Science and Scepticism about scientific knowledge in the bible, then abandon it when it blows up in your face, etc.

Magus55

Um, no - i posted that info to get people's opinions. You are gonna reject anything i present so i'm not gonna bother wasting my time trying to argue with people who don't give a crap. I just posted to see reactions, nothing more.

philechat

God, protect me from your followers!

As far as I know, sincerity is the worst possible way of seeking knowledge. Our feelings often deceive our intellectual inquiry and feelings can tell us a lot of things that ain't true at all. To say we must seek knowledge through sincerity must be Christianity's biggest lie at all time. We cannot make a thing true by feeling or wishing it to be true. We must remain detached (thus insincere) when we want to understand a concept without bias.

"Conviction is a greater enemy of truth than lies." ~Nietzsche

Demigawd

Don't give a crap? Jeez, Magus, you post a bunch of asinine assertions that you found on the net, and when those assertions were challenged, you tucked tail and ran. Why are you so frightened of doing the research that Mageth suggested?

emotional

Rename that "Good News" to: "Good News for a small minority, Very Bad News for the great majority of mankind". Say not "gospel" but "baspel".

My consolation is that the truth of this so-called "Good News" is dependent on the past existence of a real man and woman called Adam and Eve. But biological evolution means that these two people never existed. No Adam, no Fall, no need for a Saviour, and the Bad News of Christianity crumbles into dust. Praise be to Darwin!