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Walter_Mitty · 08-09-2002, 04:24 AM

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You are in a state of mortal sin. To die in a state of mortal sin, according to Catholic theology, warrants eternal damnation.

Curious, does this still include unbaptized children? Also, what about the mentally disabled?

Regardless, I do not put much stock in Catholic theology as they keep flip-flopping and have been doing so a for a few thousand years.

Case in point: The Catholic church used to believe the level of torture in hell will be dealt in accordance with the seriousness of the individual's sin. Most individuals who are not destined to hell first suffer punishment in purgatory where they are �cleansed� and then admitted into heaven.

On July 28th, 1999 the Pope decrees that hell is: �the pain, frustration and emptiness of life without God.�

So which is it? Separation? Or torture? Since I am headed there it sure would be nice know what to expect.

Also, I'm eagerly awaiting answers to the previous questions I posted.

Walter_Mitty · 08-09-2002, 04:26 AM

Shameless post to reach 100, please ignore!

Hayden · 08-09-2002, 04:45 AM

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Originally posted by Bibliophile:
Shameless post to reach 100, please ignore!

100? Hah! I'm 2.13 times the poster you are!

Hang on.. 2.14?

Gemma, I'm going to assume you meant your original comments in a purely non-patronising manner, and therefore thank you for them. I sincerely hope that someone makes you a sandwich soon (or some other act of kindness).

HR

Gemma Therese · 08-09-2002, 05:15 AM

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Originally posted by HelenSL:


Hi Gemma

Thanks for stopping by.

Are you still planning on being a nun?

love
Helen

Of course! I've been planning for 10 years now! I'll keep you posted -- but it takes up to 7 years before one takes final vows.

Gemma Therese

HelenM · 08-09-2002, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by Gemma Therese:

Of course! I've been planning for 10 years now!

Wow...half your life?

I'll keep you posted -- but it takes up to 7 years before one takes final vows.

Fair enough

love
Helen

Gemma Therese · 08-09-2002, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by Bibliophile:


Case in point: The Catholic church used to believe the level of in hell will be dealt in accordance with the seriousness of the individual's sin. Most individuals who are not destined to hell first suffer punishment in purgatory where they are “cleansed” and then admitted into heaven.

On July 28th, 1999 the Pope decrees that hell is: “the pain, frustration and emptiness of life without God.”

So which is it? Separation? Or ? Since I am headed there it sure would be nice know what to expect.

Also, I'm eagerly awaiting answers to the previous questions I posted.

Dear friend, separation from God IS torturous.

Gemma Therese

nyx · 08-09-2002, 05:29 AM

Benevolent my b....

How dare any Christian believe I would be grateful for this gesture?

If it was indeed an unselfish act, Gemma wouldn't have to say a word. She could just quietly go about saving our souls.

Nyx

Gemma Therese · 08-09-2002, 05:37 AM

"If there's one thing I can't stand it's snobbery and one-up-manship. People who try to pretend they're superior makes it so much harder for those of us who really are!"

-Hyacinth Bucket (Thar's pronounced Bouquet!!)

abe smith · 08-09-2002, 05:49 AM

GEMMA T: ne'mine the prayers; jest send me a giant chocolate bar.

bonduca · 08-09-2002, 05:58 AM

Gemma -

While I am not too keen on the idea of you being a nun, I am totally impressed that you quote Hyacinth Bucket.

B.

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HelenM Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ill Posts: 6,577	Originally posted by Gemma Therese: Of course! I've been planning for 10 years now! Wow...half your life? I'll keep you posted -- but it takes up to 7 years before one takes final vows. Fair enough love Helen

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nyx Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: US Posts: 76	Benevolent my b.... How dare any Christian believe I would be grateful for this gesture? If it was indeed an unselfish act, Gemma wouldn't have to say a word. She could just quietly go about saving our souls. Nyx

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Gemma Therese Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: new york Posts: 608	"If there's one thing I can't stand it's snobbery and one-up-manship. People who try to pretend they're superior makes it so much harder for those of us who really are!" -Hyacinth Bucket (Thar's pronounced Bouquet!!)

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abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	GEMMA T: ne'mine the prayers; jest send me a giant chocolate bar.

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