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Old 06-20-2003, 02:54 AM   #151
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The world is governed by the aggressive use of force, and feminized men make lousy soldiers.

All the more reason to let qualified women into the military.
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Anyone who gives me a fair hearing is worth whatever time I have to spend here.
You've had your fair hearing and have been found wanting. Ask me why I think that, okay?

Your old-school, fundamentalist stance of general intolerance and thoughtless arrogance is a dying breed (I'm an optimist) and you should pray to open YOUR eyes and see the light.
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In a compromise, both sides make concessions. If one side simply gives in to the other, there is no compromise.
what of situations where there is no possibility of compromise? either a standard is adopted or it isn't, either a purchase is made or it isn't, either a job is taken or it isn't, either a child is born or it isn't, ect.....
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You've had your fair hearing and have been found wanting. Ask me why I think that, okay?
No need. Anyone who thinks homosexuality in the animal kingdom has any bearing on the issue of the morality of such activity in humans has a clear bias in the direction of intellectual bankruptcy.
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what of situations where there is no possibility of compromise? either a standard is adopted or it isn't, either a purchase is made or it isn't, either a job is taken or it isn't, either a child is born or it isn't, ect.....
I think that in most situations compromise is possible, even in "yes or no" situations. A standard can be adopted on a trial basis. A purchase can be made if another expense is done away with. A job change can be put off for a year or taken now if the family can find a work-around to the problems it creates. A child can be put off as well. Hard to respond to these not knowing what the impediments to making the decisions are.

There are some things that some people can't be swayed on, for sure. A marriage where one person definitely wants a child and one person definitely does not ever want a child is hopeless. Either one party is going to give up something deeply meaningful in their life or there's going to be a child born who is not wanted by one parent. Either way it's going to involve a cruelty, and no leadership can avoid that. Most of these absolute sticking points can be known before a marriage ever takes place. I have a dear friend who proposes to me about once a year, and I start detailing our smallish yet absolute incompatibilities while he blushes.

This question would really be better addressed by someone with better skills at compromise than me. It's not one of my greater strengths.
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No need. Anyone who thinks homosexuality in the animal kingdom has any bearing on the issue of the morality of such activity in humans has a clear bias in the direction of intellectual bankruptcy.
Your misinterpretation of opposing positions is par for you - your silly personal attack really is not. Am I bothering you? I've noticed that freethought does tend to annoy those with narrow and inconsistent worldviews...
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Am I bothering you?
You're kidding, right?
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No need. Anyone who thinks homosexuality in the animal kingdom has any bearing on the issue of the morality of such activity in humans has a clear bias in the direction of intellectual bankruptcy.
(Fr Andrew): Anyone who uses the notion that humans are anything but members of the animal kingdom, as a premise for an argument relative to natural behavior, has already achieved intellectual bankruptcy.
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but daleth, would not one grow weary of just getting to have their way with no conditions? a marriage where one is constantly facing a forced compromise in disputes does not sound that great to me. i think i'd rather be able to have my way without feeling guilty about it or visa versa.
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What's the difference between "just getting to have their way with no conditions" and "have my way without feeling guilty about it"?

Also, what is a "forced compromise", and how does it differ from a compromise?

I would prefer a marriage with compromise to a marriage where my husband treated me like a little girl whom he had to train and command.
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