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"Intellectual insanity, particularly various forms of Subjectivism, is primarily responsible for the political and cultural crisis this country is experiencing today. The leaders of today were taught by the leaders of yesterday. Teachers at all levels of education have wittingly or unwittingly accepted Subjectivism as the correct world-view and passed this on to their students who become, of course, future political and cultural leaders. This is why this type of intellectual insanity is contagious. It is passed on from person to person.
Epistemological Subjectivism and its related sub-types state quite clearly that:

- Reality either doesn't exist (a minority view) or if it does we can't really know anything about it (the more popular view);
- Truth is subjective and relative and there are no ways of knowing whether any proposition is objectively true or false - "reality" can be "created" and one "reality" is as good as another;
- Moral principles and rules are subjective and relative and there is no way of knowing objectively whether an action is good or bad, right or wrong - matters of morals are matters of personal taste.

In a "subjective world," anything goes. All that is needed for something to be true or false, right or wrong, good or bad, is for some "power to be" to declare it so. That power may be the opinion of the majority, the wealth of the aristocracy, or the "authority" of the government.
The antidote, the treatment, the cure for intellectual insanity is:
- The acceptance of "reality" as it really is - reality exists and we do not create it; and
- Accepting that logical truth is objective and there are ways of knowing the difference between what is true and what is false; and
-Accepting that moral principles are objective and universal and can be known - there is a difference between right and wrong regardless of one's personal taste or one's personal opinion. (This does not mean specific rules necessarily, but principles only.)

If the United States would accept the antidote as stated above as the foundation for political, economic, and social policies, and as the framework for the nation's culture, intellectual insanity can be eliminated, contained, or at least controlled.

To sum it all up, a person is in real trouble is he thinks:
There is no objective reality, objective truth, or objective basis for moral principles.
There are no objective and absolute principles of logical thinking. Logical fallacies are a figment of our imagination and don't really matter. �

(Jonathan Dolhenty)

Kronos

After everything said so far, I agree with your original thought. "Reality", as most people understand it, means what is really happening, and everyone perceives this in their own reference frame, Hence bringing in the theory of Relitivity.(which, BTW, only implies physical perception, ie. what we physically observe. not our philosophical perception)

I think that this guy has a different definition of what "Reality" is.

tensorproduct

I'm gonna be a little bit pedantic here, but it's actually Planck's constant divided by 4*pi

Wiploc

How about, "It's only relative in your reality. In my reality, reality is absolute."
crc

Duck!

That's the perfect answer. When someone starts arguing that reality is subjective and that different viewpoints or opinions or religions are all "equally right", then tell them that in your subjective opinion that they're full of shite.

If they disagree then tell them that your opinion that they're full of it is equally as right as their opinion that makes them offended by their remarks.

I know someone who always argues from this point of view (especially with regards to religion) and I got pissed off one day and simply asked them "If me and you are equally right when it comes to religious views and our philosophy, then why the fuck are you disagreeing with me? Surely MY opinion that your view of reality as purely subjective is a load of ridiculuous unsubstantiated shit is equally as valid as your opinion that reality is purely subjective". Or in other words.... If al viewpoints are equally right, then why do you disagree with anyone about anything?


KM.