BioBeing

Why not Muhammed?

Normal

I strongly agree with this, despite the outright dogmatism of your posts.

Mageth

This idea.....is there a God or not?

First, you need to define God. Are you talking about the Abrahamic God of the bible or will any old divine presence do?

It has split mankind, it has uplifted some and destroyed others..

So it's damn time we do away with the question, wouldn't you say? But most of the splitting, uplifting, and destroying have been carried out by believers in one god or another, or two sides with opposing gods.

This idea....it is the defining and most important question in all of history.

If you say so. But it sounds like we'd have been better off never asking it.

This idea...we need to make a decison and some go one way and some another.

Actually, there are countless ways that people go, as there are countless gods that people believe in.

Saying you are an Atheist because there is no evidence that there is a God, is strange, when you consider that there is NO evidence that there is NOT a God. Thats right, there is NO EVIDENCE either way which can be proved to another.

It's not strange at all for me to say I'm an Atheist; if there's no evidence of god(s) existing, Atheism (lacking belief in god(s)) is the logical position to take.

As far as the "NO EVIDENCE either way which can be proved to another", that may be true when generally considering the existence of god(s), but not when specifically considering a particular definition of God, e.g. the God of the Bible which I assume you believe in. There is plenty of evidence and very strong arguments against the existence of the God of the Bible. The more precicely you define God, the easier it is to disprove it.

The only way to GOD is through Christ and untill you realise that it is possible to always look for evidence in the wrong places..

Aah, there's that specific definition of God, the God that's only available through Christ, the Christian God. It doesn't exist. And that's the particular definition of God that I believed in, and looked for, BTW.

And if you know of evidence (above, you seemed to claim that there wasn't any), please provide it.

Seek Christ, not Christians, or the Church...just Christ

I did; he's nowhere to be found. Just a bunch of Christians and Churches that claim he exists, but that can provide no evidence that he does exist.

braces_for_impact

Frankly I am really tired of this argument, all it takes is a mere few seconds of critical thinking and it collapses in on itself. Please allow me to illustrate:

Saying you are an Atheist because there is no evidence that there is a leperachaun, is strange, when you consider that there is NO evidence that there is NOT a leperachaun. Thats right, there is NO EVIDENCE either way which can be proved to another.

Once you disprove that there are no leperachauns you will be allowed to use this argument, until such time, it's silly.

parkdalian

There is evidence that God is not real. The fact that there are many other conflicting beliefs and superstitions is in fact a proof of the concept that people will believe fantastic things that are highly unlikely to be true.

This is not proof that the Christian God doesn't exist in particular, but it is evidence of the plausibility and even probability that God is imaginary.

There are many other beliefs associated with Christianity that have neither proof nor any theoretical basis to understand them. That may include prayer, angels, heaven/hell, original sin, Satan, miracles etc.

Atheists are not the ones asserting so many unproven concepts.

Theli

I don't think it has so much to do with believing god to be the creator, or even a god. But that we have learned, through thousand years of religious rule to make religious beliefs a great part of our identity, and thus our conviction. It is god that says what is right, it is god we must follow to recieve bliss. And it is true that alot of people, if someone/something question or threaten their religious beliefs becomes angry or evasive in order to defend their convictions. Not very different to nationalism in that way.

Spenser

With the last girl I was dating I had a deep feeling of love, acceptance, safety, warmth, relationship, love and on and on. I knew it all in my heart to be true.

I was wrong...

Nowhere357

The feeling is real, and is interpreted through whatever belief system one holds.

Thus "...having a direct relationship with Christ" is your interpretation of the feeling, and not the source of the feeling.

Spirituality is a human thing, not a Christian thing.

Philosoft

No, the idea that has "split mankind" through the ages is, "my God is real, your's isn't."

Quote:

The only way to GOD is through Christ and untill you realise that it is possible to always look for evidence in the wrong places.. Seek Christ, not Christians, or the Church...just Christ

See what I mean? Your suggestions and admonitions will do little more than slightly annoy an atheist, but I'd bet a strict Muslim might get rather angry.

NearNihil Experience

"The only way to GOD is through Christ and untill you realise that it is possible to always look for evidence in the wrong places..

Seek Christ, not Christians, or the Church...just Christ"

The only way to God is through your weak Self and strong imagination whether evidence is present or not.

I've sought Christ and I found him to be a very dead and gone person with a few good wishy-washy \ limp-wristed ideas.

Now,
[edited - Philo; CT, that was entirely uncalled for and I expect never to see such again]