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06-16-2003, 04:05 PM | #11 |
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Come on Amos, Look at the saint making process. Claiming that someone who survives a rare illness, has been cured by an unseen dead person is utter superstition. What claim to any reality can be made with such a display?
Catholic superstitions aim only at obscuritanism and promoting credulity in order to get and keep followers. They are an embarrassment to the modern world. Newage superstitions are basically silly 1960's hippie thoughts. That the RCC would consider this nonsense a threat to their power is absurd. |
06-16-2003, 05:09 PM | #12 |
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It is circular reasoning: If saints exist, and miracles exist, if demons exist, and the supernatural exist, the chances for the xian god to exist improve dramatically. That is the only thing, and by nominating yet more and more saints , and therefore discovering more and more miracles, the church proves to itself, the existance of god, anf fullfills its ultimate goal of self-perpetuation. It will also make a sick old man die peacefully and think he his going to sit next to the boss for eternity. |
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The "unseen dead person" is your addition and is not part of our theology. |
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I think what you mean to say is: "Whatever exists in the imagination must be describeable in reality." For certainly, I can talk about warp engines, leprechauns, pink unicorns (visible or not), lightsabers, Wookies, Pan-galactic Gargle Blasters, etc. But this doesn't make any of them all the more real. I can describe to you what they are, based on the accounts I've heard of them, but they're still not real! Let me add some more examples: round squares, sentences with no words, the sound of one hand clapping, a complete and consistent formal system, etc. |
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Except that Catholic imagery represent archetypal realities that we can encounter on our way to heaven. [quote][b] |
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As for us living in a "barren age", well I wish it were far more "barren". I would love to see all superstition, illusion and credulity dumped into the garbage bin. Let's get more barren! |
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