jayh

this is why car wars are indistinguishable from religious wars...

Daggah

I've heard of some 1,000+ Supras, 3000GTs, and the like...still doing it on less cylinders and less displacement than your ineffecient Mustangs. And the car out there generating the most HP per liter of displacement...well, it wasn't made by an American company. Try the S2000, by Honda.

LOL...they had to just to get all that weight to move!

So where are the rally championship Mustangs and Cobras? Oh, wait...they don't handle well enough, and they're way too heavy. They'd get stuck in the mud at the starting line. Oops.

And the second you start trying to say your Mustang handles better than a WRX...sorry bud, but it's obvious you're too busy getting a hard-on because you think your car is representative of your penis size to be honest and objective in a debate about cars.

American method of generating power: let's make the engine bigger!

Intelligent method: let's make the engine more efficient by actually using technical know-how and ingenuity.

And by the way, Mr. Fordboy, I wasn't listing those numbers because I was saying that a Mustang couldn't put them down. I was listing them because it shows that you don't need 8 cylinders to get a car to move fast.

NonHomogenized

That's only true of piston engines. The rotary engines used by mazda are 1.3 liter, and put out 255 hp. That outclasses the 2.0L, 240 hp s2000 by quite a margin.

mongrel

Ok, so this isn't a car, but the 2-stroke Suzuki RGV 250 puts out around 57hp standard, which puts it at 228hp/l. Aprillia's RS 250(which uses an RGV 250 engine) puts out slightly more, IIRC. Honda's NSR 250 has a similar output, as did Kawasaki's KR-1.

Putney Swope

Noted. I'm out of here. Thanks for the reality check.

elanah

Once again, damn you, Carol, for having a car when I don't.

And I still say it feels like a pimpmobile.

chopboy

the mazda rotary 13b is technically classed as a 2.6 litre when comparing with 4 stroke piston engines.
oh a note on holdens. their repacment for the gen 3 is going to be yet another pushrod driven piece of crap. or so i hear.

NonHomogenized

Interesting. I wasn't familiar with that fact. Do you know why this is?

Anachronix

Care to justify your opinion there?

mongrel

While I don't know the details, there does seem to be some confusion as to how engine capacity is measured with rotaries. I remember Norton tried it's hand at racing one in the 500cc world championship(I think in the early '90s), and there was quite a large amount of controversy surrounding the engine's capacity. Some said the engine had a larger capacity than allowed in the class, while some claimed the opposite. I don't think it was ever completely settled.