No Robots

Anti-Christian Leftists are essentially a Rightist fifth-column. The union of Christianity and socialism is an unbeatable combination, and so those who fear such a union have every interest in sundering them.

Von Bek

Well, in case you haven't noticed, many Christians are on a crusade to "take back" the government. That would seem contrary to what Paul says. The reason I mentioned the Roman empire is because Paul was teaching Christians to submit to it, not try to seize power. In other words, both Jesus and Paul are ignored frequently.

Splarnst

Civil disobedience and civil war would be contrary to the spirit. Voting and running for office are not.

Zenaphobe

Tell that to the Amish or Jehovah's Witnesses.

If one reads Jesus' and Paul's sayings concerning the affairs and concerns of this world, it's pretty evident that neither of them were expecting that Christians would be around much longer.

The apocalypse was the order of the day and worrying about things like marriage or storing up riches would probably be seen as silly as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Of course, how long after the Kingdom of Heaven failed to materialize could the churches expect the average believer to keep up their apocalyptic enthusiasm and not begin to look out for their material needs and plan for the future just like the heathens?

It doesn't appear that the composers of the NT letters were envisioning a world where there would be millions of Christians divided along all kinds of doctrinal lines thinking up ways to gin up money to advance their particular agendas.

I still think it more sensible to refer to Christianities instead of Christianity. When Tea Baggers and pacifist Quakers can both claim the label of "Christian", somethings amiss. :huh:

Jesus is whoever people want him to be.

mountainman

The answer to the question as to whether he was ever in fact an historical figure in the first place has not yet been established due to a manifest lack of evidence. When a lie is removed the truth remains.

mountainman

Jesus to Pilate: ................. "Then would my servants fight."


Ceasar to Army: ................ "Draw your Christian swords! The kingdom is about to be acquired".





Jesus and the IRS

But what about Jesus's Public Relations Statement about paying tax to Caesar?

Wasn't this really really fortuitous for Caesar .....

Jesus to the Mob

"Render unto Caesar the things which he really owns that you have,
and come back next week and I will brief you all on the unessential messages
from my Father who is an Artist in the Heavenly Mint.

Show me a coin. So who's image and likeness is this? What do you see with your eyes?
Verily, verily, I say unto thee that if you render unto Caesar these trinkets of maya
then he, and his authorities over the rulers, of this and many ages,
will look after your tax returns until I come back down the track. "


Cited from the Outback Shearer's Bible
(aka "Jesus and the Golden Fleece") (not on Amazon),
Oodnadatta, 1909.

arnoldo

The Pew Research Center findings of July 21- August 5, 2010 has the following findings.

Von Bek

I see what you are saying, not sure I agree. Paul does not seem to advocate Christians getting involved with the government at all.

aa5874

What absurdity!!

When Jesus was made a God of the Roman Empire all other Greek/Roman Gods were ERADICATED.

Even the DEIFICATION of ROMAN EMPERORS CEASED.

It is because Jesus the God/Man has now been found to be a theological disaster that he is now being RESURRECTED as a Man.

That too HAS FAILED.

Mankind cannot be DUPED again by the Jesus Myth fable.

Joan of Bark

Anti-Christian or anti-Christianity? They're not the same thing.