Spitfire

I just saw we have some Muslims on the loose in here, however. I will try my best to restrain myself.... :angel:

Plognark

Yes, please do, as it's part of the rules of the board.

Welcome, all the same :grin:

southernhybrid

Oh great. A thread with two self identified crazy people. I guess admitting it is half the battle guys. Please do an old heathen girl a favor and obey the higher powers of IIDB.

Welcome Spitfire. I'm glad you dropped in. I think we need more Catholics here. I love Catholics. They're so tasty with the right marinade. Don't worry. I'm just kidding. We atheists aren't into the blood sacrifice.

I do think that Catholics have some of the most beautiful rituals, and music. What about that Mozart's Choral Mass? It's so divine. What about those costumes! Damn. They are positively gay. Could you however explain all that standing, sitting and kneeling. It all seems so meaningless, but perhaps it keeps you from developing thrombophlebitis in your lower extremities. I was raised Baptist. The preacher was long winded to say the least. Perhaps a little movement would have been good for our heatlh. Maybe you Catholics do have the right idea. Help us understand. Pretty please!


Honestly. I am glad to see a new Catholic here. You guys are so much more interesting than the Protestant fundies. Hope you have a good time hanging out with the other Infidels and if everybody is nice, maybe they'll move this thread to the lounge for you so you can be properly prepared for the slaughter, er um I mean properly welcomed..

Chili

Hello from another Catholic who would spell protestant with a small p because 20.000 denominations want their own capital letter to be first.

reddish

Hi Spitfire, welcome to IIDB,

I think the matter is much too serious to joke about.

Actual people are actually dying because of the wilful spreading of misinformation that is perpetrated by the RC church. It makes me sick to think about it.

Pray tell, do you think it is moral to tell people that condoms are ineffective in preventing the spread of HIV?

Harry Bosch

I agree that Catholics are a lot more tolarable than most because they have come to terms with most scientific facts. They are willing to a least conduct some scientific research and not lie about it. I'm just not going to even start a debate with a fundie who thinks that the earth is a few thousand years old! Its a complete waste of time.

Chili

It must be done to keep them awake because ritual can be boring from beginning to end.

Or maybe we sit to listen, kneel to pray and stand to adore.

Spitfire

I love Mozart too, Southernhybrid (not knowing better, I'm assume that you weren't being sarcastic about that part.) As for the kneeling... you kneel because you believe. Would you be kneeling if you didn't? No. You would be sitting on your fat ass, no doubt. You get a lot of Catholics who just kneel because they're programmed to after so many Masses, of course. Sadly. There comes a time in every Catholic's life that one must transcend simply going through the trained motions and many, like an egg that does not hatch, never achieve this.

As far as I know, it used to be customary to kneel for the whole Mass except for the parts when it is necessary to stand (at least during "low" Masses) and later it was decided that kneeling was only absolutely necessary at certain points - though kneeling may be substituted for sitting (but not standing) at any time! Like learning a langauge you get a feel for it with experience and learn to accept that some things are arbitrary.

And no gay guy would get caught dead in something as loose-fitting as an alb.

My own personal experience with Baptists has been fairly limited, though I've noticed there does seem to be some consensus among them that I'm going to Hell.

Spitfire

Is this what qualifies as the wilful spread of misinforation? Stating a basic fact? That being that condoms are not effective at preventing the spread of disease 100% of the time. That shouldn't even be an issue here. You, like so many others, are barking up the wrong tree. Why would people who have already demonstrated that they don't care what the Church says because they fuck everything that moves suddenly refuse to use condoms because the Church is against birth control? If they're aren't using condoms when they have promiscuous sex they can't honestly say it's because of their deep religious convictions or their fear of the Church - if their belief were really so strong, none of this would have become the problem it is now in the first place because they would have one and only one sex partner apiece.

Weltall

You can keep us company then, along with members of all the other religions including the Reformed Baptist Church of God 1915.