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Old 04-09-2012, 12:10 AM   #161
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The kind of rank bigotry against religion expressed in this thread has become entirely too routine in this forum, and too few of the regulars seem to disapprove of it.
Parts of this discussion have covered the history of the rank bigotry of the Church Inquisitions, a systematic procedure used by the Catholic and Protestant Churches to prosecute alleged heretics.

Seriously Doug, what's your problem?
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I haven't figured out how you do such assessments, but I don't see how events from the 18th century onward can explain anything that happened or didn't happen before the 18th century.
A different way to treat old texts. (quellkritik)?
The french revolution?
the industrial revolution
The scientific revolution?

All this made people change their mindsets.
Such events changed the minds of people who were alive when they occurred. They could not have affected the minds of people living before they occurred.
The issue is partly "mind control" by the church. The dogma of the church was in the past enforced by the execution of heretics, who's minds the church could not control in any other way but by their death. This is history, a statement of historical evidence, and not a statement of bigotry, against the church.

The claim of Ehrman and the Mainstreamers about there being nobody who ever wrote that Jesus was non historical before the 18th century, is based on the study of written evidence. But what was in the minds of people before the 18th century may not have been committed to writing, for very good reasons.

There is abundant evidence that whatever conceptions people before the 18th century had about Jesus, these conceptions were savagely policed by the Catholic and Protestant church inquisitions. The claim that these conceptions of Jesus are only those represented by the written evidence is utterly niave, and in the circumstances, highly illogical.
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