RED DAVE

From RED DAVE:
From praxeus:
No, praxeus, the best I can do is ignore your nonsense. You have not one legitimate source for your Arabian archaeology. All you have is Lennart Möller, not a professional archaelogist, and apparently a creationist of some sort, working outside his field and a PhD thesis that explicity accepts the inerrancy of the Bible, also not written by an archaeologist, from an unaccredited college.

In other words, you have nothing.

From anders:
From praxeus:
Of course you do, praxeus. But the fact remains that Lennart Möller has no credentials in archaeology, and he has not submitted his work to any peer-reviewed journals. That makes his work virtually worthless from an archaeological point of view.

From anders:
From praxeus:
And no one has found anything. You’re waffling about Wyatt already. And you have failed to address the point made by Rundkvist. Not surprising.

From praxeus:
Ron Wyatt was at best a quack and at worst a fraud. He’s been exposed over and over again. Here’s an expose from a Christian source.

Wyatt Archaeological Research Fraud Documentation
http://www.tentmaker.org/WAR/index.html

You should be embarassed to be using such offal.

From praxeus:
Which academic? You’ve lost me.

In any event, it’s up to you to establish Möller’s bona fides in the field of archaeology. In the absence of any such, he goes down as a crank.

So you still got nothin’

RED DAVE

3DJay

"...NOT A TRACE REMAINS."

"Where ever we dug, Late Bronze Age levels had disappeared."

“At just that stage when archaeology should have linked with the written record, archaeology fails us."

"but this is only conjecture."

What don't you understand? If she's not dating, based on archaeological evidence.....she's dating, based on that written record, and personal opinion. Which is written in which book?

I know you know the answer...you can do it.


Peace

Hex

So, the truth comes out Lars? You don't care about evidence so long as the numbers work out for you, huh?


Unfortunately, I think you're the only one for who that works. Mayhap you'd best try to sell it to some people who can't reason it out like we can.

Thanks for trying. :wave:

Hex

In round numbers? Zero.

I've searched. I can't find a single one. Möller, as I pointed out earlier on this thread, is not an archaeologist. Don't try to make him into onw.

Or, if you're conjecturing that a Ph.D. is all he needs, well ... I've got my Ph.D. in Anthropology(Archaeology), can I now go tell those NASA guys how they're engineering is wrong? I'm an authority, right? :wave:

Hex

He hasn't had any of his Exodus 'work' in peer-review professional journals. The only two citations I have for him, peer-reviewed are:

Nitrated Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons: A Risk Assessment for the Urban Citizen, by Lennart Möller; Ingemar Lax; Lennart C. Eriksson, in Environmental Health Perspectives, Vol. 101, Supplement 3: Environmental Mutagenesis in Human Populations at Risk (Oct., 1993), pp. 309-315

Future Research Needs Associated with the Assessment of Potential Human Health Risks from Exposure to Toxic Ambient Air Pollutants, by Lennart Möller; Dennis Schuetzle; Herman Autrup, in Environmental Health Perspectives, Vol. 102, Supplement 4: Risk Assessment of Urban Air: Emissions, Exposure, Risk Identification, and Risk Quantitation (Oct., 1994), pp. 193-210

Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see a lot of archaeological relevance showing here. :huh:


Well, since none are, perhaps you could give your professional qualifications as to how you know that this is "where the evidence would be"? :huh:

Lugubert

I criticize Dr. Möllers archaeology ventures, but I have to defend him on one account: his Ph.D. was awarded by the Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm, perhaps not formally but in practice the medical school of Stockholm University. Far from being a diploma mill, it's an internationally highly regarded teaching and research facility. Stockholm University is for example where Xylocaine was invented. Möller's thesis was on air pollutants and cancer.

Sauron

1. You're deliberately dodging the issue of closedmindedness and bias, which I raised.

2. I've seen a lot of people go into great detail about their mistaken fantasies; Larsguy is a great example. The fact that someone can write a lot of text and go into great depth about an erroneous position doesn't make it "information".

And nowhere did I say that Whittaker must be a PhD before I will listen to him or respect what he says. What he does have to do, however, is:

• research the material with an open mind, not with a foreordained conclusion;
• use solid sources;
• be enrolled at a real university, not a diploma mill; and
• studying in the particular subject matter (i.e., archaeology), not something unrelated

Why is it that none of your sources ever seem to be able to rise to such reasonable standards, praxeus?

There aren't any such archaeologists. Why would an archaeologist look for the Exodus where it isn't attested to have occurred?

Nothing, since the alleged Exodus didn't take place in Saudi Arabia.

I know there's a thread - I contributed to it. Whittaker's claim that skeptics or "worldly scholars" doubted the existence of the Hittites is bullshit.

RED DAVE

anders, the reference to the diploma mill referred to the institution where Charles Whittaker got his degree, not to Dr. Möllers.

What's bizarre is that Möllers seems to be a famous ecologist.

Wassup?

RED DAVE

Hex

I'm not questioning his authority/the legitimacy of his degree in terms of Environment and Health. Just, that it's a far cry from having any sort of authority/legitimacy in terms of archaeology.

Hex

Möllers found god and god showed him the keys to understanding the 'truth' of the Exodus.

Plus, it's warmer in Saudi Arabia than in Sweden ...