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FWIW Meier in book 1 of 'A Marginal Jew' gives the following list of reasonably recent reasonably prominent scholars who have regarded the TF as authentic but interpolated.
(Jewish) Paul Winter, Louis Feldman (Christian sort-of) SGF Brandon, Morton Smith (Protestant) James Charlesworth (Catholic) Carlo Martini, Wofgang Trilling A-M Dubarle. Andrew Criddle |
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To "post tenebras lux" (oy, those silly and grandiose monikers that people here hide behind!)
Let me echo Stephen's call to you to tell us how it is that you are so certain about what Josephus did and did not write. Presumably some of your claim rests upon your reading scholarly studies of the langage and form and content of the "longer passage" and how it squares (or doesn't) with what scholars have argued is "typically" Josephan. Will you then kindly inform us of what the particular wrtings, especially the scholarly ones, are that informs your claim? Or will you once and for all tell us that this presumption has no basis in fact? Jeffrey Gibson |
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And there isn't merely only one way to derive an adjective from a proper name. Besides Augustianus, you have Augustanus, Augustalis, and Augustinus. Christianus is perfect Latin. |
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Howdy Jeffrey,
Both Steve Mason and Ken Olson's arguments against authenticity entirely are top-notch. Actually, I prefer Steve Mason's, since I don't think I would posit the theory of Eusebius as interpolator as Ken Olson does. best, Chris |
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But please note that I didn't ask you -- or anyone -- whether there were scholars who argued this, let alone whether what they wrote was any good.. I asked PTL (hello Jim and Tammy Faye Baker!) who the particular scholars were, if any, whose works informed his claim. I'd be grateful if he(?) would answer this. Jeffrey Gibson |
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I can't answer for her (I believe PTL is a she), but was just letting you know who informs my opinion. However, contrary to mythicists, I don't think that an absence of information in Josephus means that Jesus never existed, or started out as a mythical concept, like Doherty's thesis.
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