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Old 05-14-2008, 11:15 AM   #71
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Isn’t it interesting, however, that the Church chose to interpret the title as middle or lower class? I wonder how well Jesus’ message would have been accepted if it were thought that he came from a privileged family?
Geza Vermez IIRC claims that tekton can mean a skilled craftsman, and was used to refer to scholars skilled in arguments.

Dennis MacDonald claims that Odysseus was also a tekton - a skilled craftsman.

But it was part of Christian theology from the earliest record, that Jesus humbled himself. The "lowly carpenter" fits in with this doctrine.

If Jesus had come from a privileged family, as the Buddha did, that would be incorporated into the legend - "rich young prince renounces the false comforts of material wealth and goes on spiritual journey."
So the word that people have based the belief that Jesus was a simple carpenter could have been a reference to his skill as a rabbi and debater?

Were the OT prophecies not expecting a messiah coming from the more humbler corners of society? I don’t think that a Jesus coming from a rich and privileged background (although he had to be of the line of David) would have fulfilled the prophesies. It would also have countered many aspects of his message that warn of the dangers of wealth.
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how about most of the wars were caused by religion?
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The topic is urban legends, not facts.

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How about everything created has a creator. That is a popular myth.
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how about most of the wars were caused by religion?
How about he one where you are so secure in your religious beliefs that you'd never be seen hanging around a non-religious message board taking angry potshots at everyone?
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How about everything created has a creator. That is a popular myth.
Well, every building has a builder.
Every painting has a painter.
Every bridge has a bridger.
Every mountain has a mountaineer.
Every sausage has a sausager.
Every myth has a myther.
Every chair has a chairer.
Every pen has a penner.
Every bee has a beer.
Every beekeeper has a beekeeperer.

Seems logical to me...
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How about everything created has a creator. That is a popular myth.
Well, every building has a builder.
Every painting has a painter.
Every bridge has a bridger.
Every mountain has a mountaineer.
Every sausage has a sausager.
Every myth has a myther.
Every chair has a chairer.
Every pen has a penner.
Every bee has a beer.
Every beekeeper has a beekeeperer.

Seems logical to me...

Biker has a Biker
Smoke has a Smoker
Toke has a Toker
Great Argument! need to use it with some people.
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Biker has a Biker
You mean bike has a biker. But then, biker has a bikerer. And a bikerer must have a bikererer.
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One interesting source of Christian urban legends is the idea that someone who was around in Jesus's day has lived on uninterrupted ever since. This is usually set up to deal with the obvious problem that the Gospels have Jesus making numerous statements about how "this generation" or the audience he is addressing will not die before the second coming. I've heard variants that it was a Jew who spit on Jesus and is now cursed to wander the earth forever, or perhaps it was the "beloved disciple" (usually imputed to be John). I don't think there is any solid evidence in the texts, but it's out there.

Of course, ancient and medieval stories of saints -- particularly their miracles -- are an entire genre that consists of almost nothing but Christian urban legends, some of which are still held to be true by the Catholic Church to this day. We've got an entire genre, hagiography, loaded with these stories.
This idea is somewhat founded upon "harmonizing" and "understanding" the statement of Heb. 9:27
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"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"
Thus the logic would be that any individual that died, -and was brought back to life from the dead- would not die again (at least until the Judgement Day) but would remain ever alive to be a "watcher" and ultimately be revealed as first-hand "witness" to all of the important events in human history in The Day of Judgement.
A prime example would be "Lazarus", who by that teaching is still alive, and living amongst us, observing, and being a present "witness" to whatever affairs of humanity YHWH deems to be of critical importance in The Day of Judgement.
"Lazarus" and all other such "hidden ones" being "The Watchers" and "The Witnesses" will remain unrecognised and undetected until The Day of Judgement when YHWH will call His witnesses to the witness stand.
Then, and only then, will they be revealed, in The Day that they are called forth; "Lazarus come forth" Then they shall give their sworn account as witnesses for The Prosecution.

This is a short summary of the ideas that are inherent in that beliefe, and is presented here for information only. I will not debate its validity.
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Well, every building has a builder.
Every painting has a painter.
Every bridge has a bridger.
Every mountain has a mountaineer.
Every sausage has a sausager.
Every myth has a myther.
Every chair has a chairer.
Every pen has a penner.
Every bee has a beer.
Every beekeeper has a beekeeperer.

Seems logical to me...
Good point. Referring to the universe as a "creation" begs the question.

There is no good reason to assume such a thing about it.
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