outhouse

no, what is explained in exodus has to do with Solomans temple hundreds of years early.



things changed since then with Herods temple .

Duvduv

AA, I think you missed this posting I made to you.

outhouse

http://nazarenespace.com/group/virtu...the-temple-tax


heres a jewish site then

The International Nazarene Beit Din says:



One need pay the Temple Tax only once in his life. Once he pays the Tax he has a redeemed nefesh, and is no longer a stranger but are like sons of the King btherefore is free of the tax.

Sheshbazzar

To repeat the essential factor, and one that every Jew mindful of the words of THE LAW knows;

To pay the half-shekel is one of the 248 'positive' "YOU SHALL.." COMMANDMENTS of the 613 COMMANDMENTS.

What Jew is there that is learned in The Law, that does not know of the 613 COMMANDMENTS?

And of the significance of the tizitzit upon their tallit?

There have always been those among the Jews who were negligent in their obedience to THE LAW. That fact has never changed what THE LAW says.

There have always been those among the Jews who were willing to resist the rules of THE LAW. That fact has never changed what THE LAW says.

There have always been those among the Jews those who are in transgression of THE LAW. That fact has never changed what THE LAW says.

There have always been those among the Jews who who have confessed their transgressions of THE LAW. That fact has never changed what THE LAW says.

This is THE LAW that also says;

"If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against Me, and that also they have walked contrary unto Me;

And I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:

Then will I remember My Covenant with Jacob, and also My covenant with Isaac, and also My covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.

The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her Sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised My Judgments, and because their soul abhorred My Statutes.

And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break My Covenant with them: for I am YHWH their Elohim.

But I WILL for their sakes remember The Covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their Elohim: I am YHWH."



"Behold, the days come, saith YHWH, that I will make a new Covenant with The House of Israel, and with The House of Judah:

Not according to The Covenant that I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which My Covenant they broke, although I was an husband unto them, saith YHWH:

But this shall be The Covenant that I will make with The House of Israel; After those days, saith YHWH, I will put MY LAW in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be My people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know YHWH: for they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith YHWH:
for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Thus saith YHWH, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; YHWH Tzbaoth is His name:

If those ordinances depart from before Me, saith YHWH, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

Thus saith YHWH; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith YHWH."

And every man of The House of Israel, and all they that join themselves to The House of Israel,
And every man of The House of Judah, and all they that join themselves to The House of Judah,
are the inheritors of this promise, and of the forgiveness promised to all who confess their trespasses against THE LAWS of YHWH.

THE LAW says what it says, and by THE LAW all men are guilty.

THE WORDS OF THE LAW do not ever change nor go away. But stand eternal that all men everywhere might know they are in transgression of THE LAW.
And every one that confesses their transgressings of THE LAW, receives that promised forgiveness.
No religious rigmarole, nor payments to priests nor preachers required. 'Therefore the children are free'.

Whatever the ignorant explanations and lying tales the Goyim may bring forth, they will never serve to annul the words of THE LAW, and of a Jewish persons obligation and right to uphold the immutable sanctity of THE LAW -even when living in a state of transgression of, or non-observance of- THE LAWs eternal Statutes and Ordinances.
And the confession thereof, is the justification thereof, of whomsoever shall confess their transgressions and sins against THE LAW of YHWH, receives forgivness of their sin and trangression. Sin is the transgressing of THE LAW.
THE LAW stands as it was given, and immutable.






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Sheshbazzar

The International Nazarene Beit Din, is NOT The ordained and authorized Priesthood of The Temple of YHWH, nor the Council of The Sanhedrin.
They have no standing, nor authority to ever change nor revise any former Decision rendered by The Temple Priests and Sanhedrin of The Nation of Israel.
The half-shekel was payable annually by decision and authority of The Temple.

What cheapskates! To grumble over one-half of a shekel a year, for the treasury of their own -beloved?- Nation.
What a shameful and undeserving people, exposed naked before all of the Goyim.

Let the greedy keep their filthy lucre, and be buried with it.

Sheshbazzar

Read this International Nazarene Beit Din -'Jewish' Statement of Faith. These wannabes are no more 'Jewish' than my dog is.

2036 members total, and $1085 in tithes this month____ but they're begging for more.
__That works out to an amazing $1.88 per member in tithes!
They must be awful damn poor, or not very good at putting their money where their mouth is.
Want to send these 'Jews' your half-shekel? __or perhaps another $1.88 so you can be a 'Jew' too?:hysterical:

Can't you come up with a little more credible 'authority' on Judaisim and the Torah's LAWS than that outhouse?






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aa5874

I did NOT fabricate Matthew 1.18-20, Luke 1.26-35, Mark 6.48-49, Mark 9.2, John 1, Acts 1.9 and Galatians 1.

You very well know that I am dealing with Jesus of the Extant Codices.

Based on Origen it was EXPECTED that those who did NOT BELIEVE Jesus was the Child of a Ghost would INVENT Falsehood.

"Against Celsus" 1.32 So, based on Origen, the people of Antiquity who claimed Jesus was human were basically LIARS and it appears Origen was right.

Celsus in "Against Celsus" presented RUMORS when he argued that Jesus was NOT born of the Ghost and was NOT BORN of the seed of God without a human father.

Duvduv

I wasn't asking about that. I was asking you about the Quran which also has a story of the virgin Mary bearing Isa/Jesus as a human who became a human prophet and was not a ghost.

Sheshbazzar

And you think a religiously biased composition from 610-632 CE is a credible source regarding a foreign culture circa 1 CE???
Did Mo' also fly off into heaven on a winged jackass because the Quran says so?

judge

I'm not even going to touch this.