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Old 11-16-2005, 10:39 PM   #11
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I don't have any dejavu's or dreams, but yes, they can lie to us and I even think that they have a name for such error today. But I forgot what it is.
Imagination.
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Not really because that is far beyond one thousand years. I hold that the ancients reported their age for up to one thousand years because that is how far back they could journey back inside their own subconscious mind and recall evidence. It is therefore also called the Thousand Year Reign wherein we have eternal life while we are alive on this earth but now in the new heaven and new earth. IOW, eternity only takes us back for up to a thousand years (and I think that 500 years is far enough to call home).

Also notice that Jesus's linage in Luke was given after the descend of the HS to say that it was an inspired account instead of a written account as in Matthew. Naturally, the Wedding in Cana is where he *met* these people.

I think hardy has a poem on this as well (Voices from the Graveyard).
I regard this as fanciful. However, if it could be substantiated, and a plausible mechanism proposed for it, it would win, IMV, both Randi's million bucks and a Nobel.

Your post shows to me, unless backed up by evidence, the dangers of trusting faith and/or intuition without using ones critical faculties and scientific understanding of the world. It can (and I suggest in this case has) lead to a world view that is out of touch with reality.

Let's have some evidence for your assertions please.

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LOL! True.
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Your post shows to me, unless backed up by evidence, the dangers of trusting faith and/or intuition without using ones critical faculties and scientific understanding of the world. It can (and I suggest in this case has) lead to a world view that is out of touch with reality.

Let's have some evidence for your assertions please.

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There is lots of evidence for this in literature but that also is subject to interpretation.

In the real world the Infallibility of the church with its dogma and bulls in place that are unmovable for many generations is our example. You must see the Church Triumpant as the domein of heaven (equal to the fig tree that bore Nathanael in Judaism), the Church Suffering as Purgatorians and the Church Millitant as the sinners on earth.

We can go into literature.
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