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Old 07-30-2004, 08:25 AM   #11
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Why can't he experience it? Sure he can.
If you can't die, you can't experience dying. That's tautological, perhaps, but it's the simple truth.

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He can experience the process of dieing, just not death itself.
Oh, you mean pain? Shock? Then he could have gotten by with Jesus passing a bad kidney stone or two. And how could God, a "spirit" incapable of dying or actually feeling physical pain, even identify with physical pain, electrical signals from nerve endings to the brain?

Or fear? If you know you can't die, the psychological part of the "process of dying", the fear, isn't really something you can experience. And there's a similar problem as with physical pain; how could God make sense out of fear?

This whole line of argument seems to assume that God was somehow possessing the physical body, sitting in there somehow as an observer, plugged into the mind and nerves, so he can experience what it's like for one of his creatures to suffer and die. It's bizarre, macabre. And if God is omniscient, it should be unnecessary. He should already know all that. If God is omniscient, he'd already know what it was like for humans to suffer. If he didn't, if he could only learn it through experience, then he's wasn't omniscient.

Anyway, if what it's like for a human to die is something God wanted to or needed to know, perhaps so he could identify or sympathize with his creations, why didn't he come down and learn it a long time before that? It seems like that could have saved the BCE world a lot of grief.

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Or, more accurately, given the belief in the soul, he can die, but his soul becomes God again.
That's really bizarre, and I'm sure most Christians around here would strongly disagree with it.

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If you approach the example presupposing that there is no soul then this is impossible, but then there is no God either so it's a moot point.
Why would the non-existence of a soul eradicate God? And note that early Hebrew mythology did not include the concept of a soul, that the concept of a soul was introduced to the Hebrews by the Greeks?
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