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Old 11-18-2005, 08:38 PM   #181
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au contraire, I use language extremely precisely, and it means what I intend it to mean. And penultimately it is your burden of proof to disprove the resurrection. Time is short my friends.
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:40 PM   #182
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What "forensic debates?" There isn't any forensic evidence. There also aren't "hundreds of professional abstracts in the professional literature" which remotely support the resurrection stories as being historical. There also isn't any evidence for "penumbraic causative correlates.'

You don't seem to have the slightest awareness of what the scholarship actually is on this stuff. Do you really think you're going to able to successfully bluff your way through your absurd assertions on this board?
He claims to be a national debate champ. We should probably be scared.

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If you've seen such great scientific evidence (which apperenyly only you know where to find), why don't you step up and tell us what it is. You can start by proving Jesus ever existed.
He'll start by listing 28 claims, proving none of them, and finishing off with an excuse to exit the debate.

It is Friday night - maybe he's had too many glasses of wine, or isn't on his meds.
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:47 PM   #183
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au contraire, I use language extremely precisely, and it means what I intend it to mean. And penultimately it is your burden of proof to disprove the resurrection. Time is short my friends.
define: penultimate

It means "next to last."

So it is his "next to last" burden to disprove the resurrection?

Yeah, that makes sense. And if the claim is made that someone rose from the dead, it is the burden of the one making the claim (e.g. YOU and your Bible) to prove it.
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:50 PM   #184
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diogenes...you dont seem to know the definition of forensic.......and Sauron, come monday morning you'll be bean counting the budget for fed ex expenses, staples, and postage...... you are the 6,157 post king here in your incestuous self-affirming debate club...... in the real world your atheistic arguments crash and burn...... i suppose since it is your board you get to be the king of the last word club........
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au contraire, I use language extremely precisely, and it means what I intend it to mean. And penultimately it is your burden of proof to disprove the resurrection. Time is short my friends.
Uh, no. "Penultimate" is the wrong word here.

And your use of language is not described by the word "precise". A more apt description would be "unintentionally self-embarrassing."
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:55 PM   #186
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diogenes...you dont seem to know the definition of forensic.......and Sauron, come monday morning you'll be bean counting the budget for fed ex expenses, staples, and postage...... you are the 6,157 post king here in your incestuous self-affirming debate club...... in the real world your atheistic arguments crash and burn...... i suppose since it is your board you get to be the king of the last word club........
Oh, please. This is the real world. If the debate is so crushingly disastrous for the atheist argument, then briing on the heavyweights. Where are they?

Please. You say the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of your case, then when asked to produce the evidence, you beg off without so much as a link, and claim the burden of proof is on us. Where is your overwhelming evidence you were so recently crowing about?
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:58 PM   #187
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I agree with aChristian. I have studied the resurrection and its supporting and skeptical arguments in dozens of expert treatises, hundreds of professional abstracts in the professional literature and seen it tested in forensic debate and in many academic venues for thirty years ,and I concur: the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ is rock solid. It is by far the most reasonable explanation for the penumbraic causative correlates.
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diogenes...you dont seem to know the definition of forensic
So then teach him a lesson, Mr National Debate Champ.

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.......and Sauron, come monday morning you'll be bean counting the budget for fed ex expenses, staples, and postage
Actually on Monday I'm getting a haircut, buying tires for the car, and going to the gym.

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...... you are the 6,157 post king here in your incestuous self-affirming debate club.....
Well since you're a National Debate Champ, here is your opportunity to rock our world to the very core. Bring your arguments and humiliate us.

You asked earlier why I wasn't debating christians. You're here, and you claim to be christian. So get on with the debate, already.

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in the real world your atheistic arguments crash and burn......
But not as a result of anything you have posted.

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i suppose since it is your board you get to be the king of the last word club........
I don't own the board, and there are quite a few christians that do debate here. The better of them can connect a logical argument, however.
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Old 11-18-2005, 09:09 PM   #189
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uh nooo...in terms of eschatology, penultimate is exactly the right word here. Your arrogance is truly incredible. In all of the prophecies..they laughed and joked and mocked right up until the end....sodom and gomorrah, the gays in the san francisco bath houses ridiculing and mocking God, until they started dying by the thousands and the city closed the gay bath houses down as being public health nuisances.....babylon, tyre, assyria, all mocked God too....the hundreds of brothels destroyed by the tsunami, the brothels and dens of iniquity destroyed by flood in New Orleans, the casinos destroyed in Mississipii, .... I had a Gay Aids patient I saw take a Gideon hospital Bible and throw it at me, while cursing God and cursing God's prophecies against sexual immorality the exact same week that "act up" broke into churches in san francisco and desecrated their alters and profaned the communion cups and communion instruments.......... there again, an amazing arrogance!
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Evidence. Where is it?
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