Originally Posted by Stacey Melissa

Fortunately, I don't have that issue myself, since I am completely sure that what you have posted in this thread is a total crock of sh...

Eh, nevermind. I'm bored with this thread already. Goodbye.

Originally Posted by Phishfood

oh, and in my other post, "not so sure" was just me being playful. -Pf

Originally Posted by SanDiegoAtheist

Any people here familiar with the original hebrew? I'm not 100% certain, but I believe this to be utter and complete BS (as is most of this Christbots postings, but this is one that should be pretty easy to call him on).

I certainly have NEVER heard that the Hebrew word for "creation" in the Genesis account was equivalent to "restoration" - and I studied the Bible as literature at college (UCSD) under a professer who was a Jew and reading the OT in the original Hebrew.

Cheers,

The San Diego Atheist

Originally Posted by lvdyou

Thank God there is a hell.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoAtheist

Exhibit A for how amoral some Christians can be. I rest my case.

lvdyou - if this IS in fact a sentiment that you believe wholeheartedly, than you, sir, are truly a despicable human being, worthy of absolutely no consideration by any person here.

Thanks, but take your bastard nonexistant god and go dig yourself a hole and bury yourself alive.

Bye,

The (disgusted) San Diego Atheist

Originally Posted by lvdyou

You are a bad man sandiego.

Originally Posted by lvdyou

All creatures come from dust for that is what every cell of our body is made from in agreement with Gen. 2.7 "dust". That is the scientific wonder, that birds came from the sea long ago, though it is beyond your understanding as the sea creatures came onto land. Birds were one of the first warm blooded.

The moon, stars, and sun were already there, but they were restored in view or even entering orbit. It was dark, now it is not. When a planet approaches the sun it gets brighter so light comes, then the various planets, stars and sun itself.

One could invision ocean creatures wanting to escape their domain and some did by somehow gaining momentum to fly as they continued to try to do so running on land.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air

Out of the ground.

Birds or like flying creature came out of the ground, then followed great land masses of animals.

Science can't test the spirit realm for it is above scientific means. All that can be done is observe the evil spirit's workings like in your bad reasoning in the self of your soul or in men like Hitler through his demons, fallen angels and Satan himself.

All accounts are the same, just providing more detail each time.

Adam was created first because he first had God-consciousness, and the woman shortly ensued in a very short period of time. This is reflective of man's strength as a bread winner through the ages so he would naturally be first cognizant. It should be noted that woman ate the apple with a darkened mind, but Adam knew what he was doing in sinning for his affection for Eve, sinning also (his affection was not the sin, but the negative consequence of his actions as he let his emotion get the better of him). In other words, Eve sinned unaware of her sin not realizing her disobedience, but Adam knew his disobedience.

Adam was created after everything else just as the Bible says. Everything matches up in the Bible. Remember, if it were not so you could prove otherwise, but you can't.

The literal Biblical interpretation of the rib is literal, for the rib is of dust just as the man is of dust (is it not the rib literally made of dust?), just as the woman is of dust. It is an expression, the loin of my cloth. The rib is also close to man's heart so there is also a heartfelt connection.

I gave you the proof of the word "restoration" so we know it is 6 days of restoration, and we know Lucifer fell, which was not after Adam was created but before. Man was created because God could not find obedience in the angels. God errects obedience in the One man Jesus Christ so we who were disobedient may become one of His own, for we were made in His image.

Angels were created first but they fell, and Lucifer caused them to fall, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the mornin!" (Is. 14.12).

Ezekiel 28 speaks of the origin of Satan, verses 11 to 19. If you want to get into this to know the truth instead of bouncing all over the place,
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/mystery.htm

Ex. 20.11 agrees with what I have shared with you. The 7th day is another 24 hour day, a summary day of what has taken place in the spanse of restoration from the earth being made desolate in Gen. 1.2 because of earth's earliest ages of sin.

If there was sin before we were created, we are not responsible for that sin for we were created perfect man, both male and female.

Lucifer fell before restoration but after initial creation, perhaps millions, even billions of years ago. I do not know. It is too difficult to determine. Now you know what God has you focus on the 6 days of retoration for your spirit. There are some things only God will know more proof that God is God. Some men make science a god but that then becomes their own tower of bable, inordinate curiousity to the point of unhealthiness and their detriment.

Demons are disembodied spirits, so you do not see them physically, but when they possess souls and enter bodies you can see their working through people. There is even record in the Bible, they had sex with daughters of men producing what were called the Nephilim, a race of evil men. This would take place through having sex by possessing men and those men sleeping with daughters of men, so on and so forth thus creating an evil race called Nephilim of very tall offshoot.

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Nephilim.htm

Your best scientific evidence of demons is the evil all over the world today that men give into, for they are possessed by demons that they allow control them.

Nothing I have said is so severe, just the honest to good truth, which should never be the cause of your wrinkles if you accept God. Not accepting God, now that will give you lots of wrinkles. You have no idea.

When you call Jesus a liar that is severe thus receiving the severest, hell.

Originally Posted by lvdyou

Actually you weren't being playful. You really were not sure, that is why you said "not so sure".

I merely pointed out that you. There is no need for your hostile reaction. Just see it for what it is, your waffling back and forth.

But in Christ you can know.

Originally Posted by lvdyou

All necessary references have been supplied, so you must now carry the work of understanding yourselves. I can not cater to your flesh. The choice is now left up to you.

Let me leave you with this one thought, especially for Christians who may come here to try to help these unregenerates,

You may want to convince a person with many verses but if a person doesn’t want to listen after reading only a few posts or a few verses then why waste your time? Did the Messiah waste his time in such a way? I’ve said it many times before and I’ll say it many more times, people believe what they want to believe. Only the few who love true honest reason will listen to Truth.

Praise the Lord!

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Christianity.htm