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Old 08-12-2007, 08:04 AM   #11
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Hyam Macoby in "Mythmaker' makes the statement/suggestion that the Simon Magus referred to in "certain" anti-Pauline docos, [he later names the Pseudo-Clementines as one such] was a code name for Paul. He asserts that this is "accepted by many scholars" and, from his text, I think he includes Baur as one such.
Robert M. Price is a Lovecraft scholar as well as a bible scholar and in his comments to Richard L. Tierney's Simon Magus cycle (or via: amazon.co.uk) he alludes to Simon Magus as the Anti-Paul. Especially enlightening is when he compares Simon Magus' wanting to buy the power of the holy ghost with Paul's aid to the jewish christian community in Jerusalem to make them accept his apostoly.
That is correct, the Pseudo-Clementine literature does sort of use Simon as a pseudonym for Paul.

What I find interesting is that wherever Peter goes, there is Simon as well. I almost get the feeling that the Simon who is an arch-foe of Peter in the Clementines was developed to explain away stories about Peter that depicted him as a magus (I am not talking about a street magician, but a practitioner of magical arts, which folks took very seriously in those days).

However, I doubt the Simon of _Acts_, who while clearly portrayed as a magus was just as clearly an amateur one, could be anything more than the seed from which sprouted the highly developed Simon myth of the Clementines, where he is a disciple of John the Baptist and Dositheus, has a gnostic theology, etc.

In the mythical world of the Pseudo-Clementines, James is also a super-secretive Ebionite (to explain why no one had heard of the Pseudo Clementine traditions prior to their publication), and Peter is a take-off of Philo of Alexandria (which betrays the date of this literature - mid 2nd century CE - when Christian apologists were trying to make a case that Judaism, and by extension Christianity, practiced a kind of philosophical tradition).

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Old 08-12-2007, 08:38 AM   #12
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I'd be interested in you elaborating on this bit if you wouldn't mind.

"Peter is a take-off of Philo of Alexandria (which betrays the date of this literature - mid 2nd century CE - when Christian apologists were trying to make a case that Judaism, and by extension Christianity, practiced a kind of philosophical tradition)."
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