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Old 02-07-2013, 06:55 PM   #671
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I have plenty of time. And I'll wait until you find the time.

You may as well get working on coming up with some real answers instead of these evasions, because we are not going to stop asking you these questions
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What 'evasion' is there? You haven't demonstrated the subtlety to understand the idea that the Ethiopian Orthodox Church is universally acknowledged to be 'Jewish-Christian' in some respect. The evidence for this includes their adoption of circumcision, adherence to the Levitical distinctions between clean and unclean animals, and observance of the Jewish Sabbath as well as the Christian Sunday. The Book of Jubilees is very important in this Church and goes back to Ethiopian Judaism or 'the Falashas.'

It is this community that maintains a 'Jewish Christian' tradition which - among other things - has a 'shrine' in each monastery connected with the ark of the covenant. The sacred Ethiopian language - Ge'ez - is proto-Semitic. All of these issues requires patience and subtlety in order to proper comprehend the connection back - possibly - to the Therapeutae. Most significant of all is the shared calendar (vis a vis the Falashas) and the Therapeutae which again goes back to Jubilees.

But again you have demonstrated no subtlety in any of your discussions. Your hatred of Christianity is well established and as you seem incapable of the necessary open-mindedness to consider the evidence I see no point in continuing.
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I think Shesh being the wanna be Jewish equivalent of sotto voce is about to hitting the nail on the head as is possible. I will never surpass that description.
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Every Ethiopian Orthodox church and monastery now has a replica of the Ark of the Covenant, known as the “Tabot,” secreted away within its holy of holies, and no church in the country is considered consecrated unless it possesses this shrine. It is almost universally acknowledged that this feature of Ethiopian Christianity was taken over from Ethiopian Judaism (which was pre-existent) and which certainly passed down the Nile from Egypt (and possibly Alexandria the center of Jewish life in Egypt).
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:37 PM   #675
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What 'evasion' is there?
As anyone that can read can see, you have not addressed a single one of the subjects that were raised.

'No point in continuing', when it comes to addressing these sentences within Philo's actual texts, you haven't even yet began.

Way back in POST #652 I asked you whether you were translating directly from the Greek.
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(25) And in every house there is a sacred shrine which is called the holy place, and the monastery in which they retire by themselves and perform all the mysteries of a holy life...
Sorry stephan but if this is a proper translation, it does not at all seem to be saying what you are stating.

Perhaps you are reading it from a Greek text, and your translation direct from Greek does not agree with this English translation we have been supplied with?

1. Does the Greek of your text indicate "in every house there is a sacred shrine which is called the holy place"?

2. or that there was just "the shrine in the monastery"?

3. Is the Greek text that unclear on the distinction?
You have not addressed, and you have NOT answered these questions.
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The Falashas continued animal sacrifices until 1948.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:39 PM   #677
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Fine, then let's stop the discussion. I have no further interest in trying to get blood from a stone.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:58 PM   #678
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I am not impressed. I didn't ask you anything at all about what -latter- Ethiopian churches believed or practiced.

Please tell us how your Greek texts of Philo's;
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(25) And in every house there is a sacred shrine which is called the holy place, and the monastery in which they retire by themselves and perform all the mysteries of a holy life...
Read differently than this English rendering. Does your Greek text indicate 'a shrine in 'EVERY HOUSE' or not?
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The parallel exists even if you don't want to recognize it.
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I don't understand why you are so hung up on this shrine in every house business. The temple had a shrine. There was more than one temple. More than one tabernacle. So yes, it would not be surprising if the houses of worship had a shrine. That is the Ethiopian model too.
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