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andrewcriddle · 09-24-2012, 12:10 PM

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I've always been of the opinion that the Church Fathers invented these 'heretical boogeymen.' For instance Hermogenes is (a) alive at the time of Paul (c. 50 - 70 CE?) (b) still alive at the time of Theophilus of Antioch (160 CE) and then (c) still alive at the time of Tertullian (220 CE). One can argue that there were two Hermogenes or that Tertullian has copied out and adapted information from an original treatise by Theophilus (as he has with Book Two of Against Marcion). Yet I am still not convinced that (a) and (b) are separate people.

Theophilus was active after 180 CE. Tertullian probably wrote Against Hermogenes shortly before 210 CE.

It is quite possible for Hermogenes to have published his ideas around 175 CE and still been alive in 210 CE.

The Hermogenes mentioned in Timothy is IMO an entirely separate person.

Andrew Criddle

stephan huller · 09-24-2012, 12:14 PM

that would be the standard view and it is sensible

sotto voce · 09-24-2012, 12:15 PM

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